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Variegated Serenoa

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Creekside

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I had never seen a variegated serenoa repens before today. I was on the hunt for striped Sabals, but this was even better!post-727-066595600 1290813489_thumb.jpgpost-727-087535300 1290813519_thumb.jpg

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Way cool!!! Is it yours now?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Creekside Proficient

Creekside

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:drool:

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

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Creekside

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It's mine to admire, but it can't be moved. You can be sure I'll harvest seeds and give those a try.

Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Beautiful!

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

JEFF from Trabuco Canyon CA Experienced

JEFF from Trabuco Canyon CA

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Very nice variegated Serenoa! Hopeful you can share some of those seeds.

Jeff Rood

Rusty on Pine Is. Mentor

Rusty on Pine Is.

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Wow, what a rare find, kudos for discovering it.

JD must be off line for the holiday, else the drool would be flowing...lol :lol:

Ummmmmm, along with a lot of us...... :)

Thanks for sharing a great find, Catherine!

Rusty

Rusty Bell

Pine Island - the Ex-Pat part of Lee County, Fl , USA

Zone 10b, life in the subs!...except when it isn't....

Zayin Community Regular

Zayin

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Does verigation typically pass through to a second generation via seeds? I'd be very impressed if it does.

Jody

Chilliwack British Columbia

Zone 8/9 until 3 years ago. Now Zone 6b.

Don't even get me started.

JEFF from Trabuco Canyon CA Experienced

JEFF from Trabuco Canyon CA

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Sometimes you can get a small percentage from seed. It is worth trying.

Jeff

Jeff Rood

Rusty on Pine Is. Mentor

Rusty on Pine Is.

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Does verigation typically pass through to a second generation via seeds? I'd be very impressed if it does.

Although variable in all circumstances, it largely depends on whether or not the mutation is genetic, chimeric, or viral.......

My knowledge if limited, but it would seem that genetic would be the most stable, chimeric to a lesser extent, and viral generally through stem propagation unless it's mitochondrial...

Rusty

Rusty Bell

Pine Island - the Ex-Pat part of Lee County, Fl , USA

Zone 10b, life in the subs!...except when it isn't....

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Zayin

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Keep us informed. Hopefully it's genetic and not viral. I had a Trachyarpus Latisectus that had amazing verigation, but it reverted..bleah. Im gonna watch when it sets seeds now though.

Jody

Chilliwack British Columbia

Zone 8/9 until 3 years ago. Now Zone 6b.

Don't even get me started.

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck Mentor

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

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...NICE.... :) Good score..

Mikey

M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

carver Rising Star

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Beautiful, great variegation. Not to give out the coordinates to your great find but where did you find this?

Creekside Proficient

Creekside

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Beautiful, great variegation. Not to give out the coordinates to your great find but where did you find this?

It's on private property near Sarasota.

Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

Kumar Veteran

Kumar

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Beautiful find!!

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Kumar

Bombay, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 23 - 32 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 3400.0 mm

Calcutta, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 19 - 33 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 1600.0 mm

Creekside Proficient

Creekside

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Does verigation typically pass through to a second generation via seeds? I'd be very impressed if it does.

Although variable in all circumstances, it largely depends on whether or not the mutation is genetic, chimeric, or viral.......

My knowledge if limited, but it would seem that genetic would be the most stable, chimeric to a lesser extent, and viral generally through stem propagation unless it's mitochondrial...

Rusty

I don't think it could be genetic. It can happen, I'm thinking viral - this pic shows one of the two striated Sabal seedlings that came up from seeds from a similarly striated treepost-727-043187400 1290837384_thumb.jpg. On the Serenoa, the small branch that's on the same stem has all green leaves.

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

hanapalms Proficient

hanapalms

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That is a beauty and probably quite rare for Serenoa. Are variegated Wodyetia bifurcata common? :unsure:

William

Hana, Maui

 

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carver Rising Star

carver

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That is a beauty and probably quite rare for Serenoa. Are variegated Wodyetia bifurcata common? :unsure:

I have seen a few recently planted in my area, one a large field grown with several feet of wood. Variegated veitchia too.

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Great looking find Catherine :drool: That is truly something special. Best wishes on success with any seed!

Rich

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A beauty Catherine, had to be exciting to come up on it.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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Woah! Excellent find. I've never heard of variegated Sereona before, it's good to know that they exist.

Also, the variegated sabal seedling is very nice, how many seeds did you germinate from the mother plant before you got one that had the trait?

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Creekside

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Woah! Excellent find. I've never heard of variegated Sereona before, it's good to know that they exist.

Also, the variegated sabal seedling is very nice, how many seeds did you germinate from the mother plant before you got one that had the trait?

Keith, two seedlings out of around 1400/1500 seeds. I still have all the other (green) seedlings and, three years later, no others have shown color. Those two were striated right from the first leaf. It's certainly worth a few minutes of my time to see if it just might work with the serenoa.

Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

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Creekside

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Another view.

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

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Sarasota

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Creekside

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My souvenir.

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

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Wow! Nice find Catherine!

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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Great discovery! I love finding variegated plants that are uncommon. I just scored a variegated coontie today too! spotted a nice var. sabal too.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

AggiePalms Rising Star

AggiePalms

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Very cool! My Serenoa and Sabal minor clumps need a variegated brother clump like this.

Gig 'Em Ags!

 

David '88

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I had to add this photo. I like the way the striation of the petiole becomes the yellow of the leaf. There is so much art in nature!

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Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

Alicehunter2000

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I see thousands......of s. repens that is :lol: .........never seen a varigated one......how cool is that!..... :greenthumb:

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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JD in the OC Grand Master

JD in the OC

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Rusty was right.. I was away for Thanksgiving and neglected to stumble upon this wonderful post! Great find Creekside!! I've looked through 10,000's of potted serenoa and have yet to find a variegated one. I would be VERY interested in getting seed from you if you ever get some.

William,

Yes, we have 2 variegated W. bifurcata. They are extremely rare.

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