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Coconut palms look good in Jupiter and Palm Beach


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I was down in Jupiter and Palm Beach and the coconuts there looked very well despite the cold winter. Some had some distorted leaves or discoloring but overall I saw little damage.

In Jupiter;

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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I forgot to add, this pic is of some growing in the neighrbood in Jupiter where my girlfriends parents live. Quite a few really tall coconut palms there.

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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In Palm Beach

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can't forget the royal palms !!!

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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Great pics, Eric. They seem to have come out of any slump quite nicely.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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Vero Beach coconuts range from quite happy (mostly close to the ocean and/or with some canopy protection) to dead. In my neighborhood, a couple are happy, one is a corpse, others are between. Good to see such good-looking coconuts farther south.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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Those are some nice trees Eric, thanks for sharing, Ed

MOSQUITO LAGOON

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Thanks Eric! I especially love the photos of the Palm Beach cocos. They remind me of the South FL of my childhood with tall cocos everywhere. If memory serves me right aren't the Palm Beach trees that are still there being innoculated against Lethal Yellowing? Or is there little enough LY still around with so many trees now gone that innoculation is no longer needed?

garrin in hawaii

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I imagine some are being innoculated but I think most are the more LY resistant varieties that have been planted. They are starting to get tall after a couple decades or so.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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Thanks Eric! I especially love the photos of the Palm Beach cocos. They remind me of the South FL of my childhood with tall cocos everywhere. If memory serves me right aren't the Palm Beach trees that are still there being innoculated against Lethal Yellowing? Or is there little enough LY still around with so many trees now gone that innoculation is no longer needed?

Garrin- The Town of PB does still innoculates annually for LY and makes the tree company offer to Town residents the same price per tree fee.

The weight of lies will bring you down / And follow you to every town / Cause nothin happens here

That doesn't happen there / So when you run make sure you run / To something and not away from

Cause lies don't need an aero plane / To chase you anywhere

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Posted

I have read alot recently regarding the allegedly LY resistant varieties of Coconuts simply not living up to the promotion. LY is rarely seen in young Palms but strikes mature specimens, making the devastation much more visible. LY also effects other Palm varieties although the Coconut is the best known.

In the Town of Palm Beach, the innoculation program in the 1970's saved many, many Jamaican Talls. They remain all over and are readily observable because of their heighth. The Jamaican flourishes all the way to Vero and beyond although cold winters have cut their numbers. I am certain LY "resistant" varieties have also been planted throughout all these areas. The jury is still out about how LY "resistant" these varieties truly are.

That stated, the Palm landscape of today in no way resembles the horrors of the 1970's. Although the resistant varieties play a role, I believe LY simply not to be as prevalent as it once was. Just my opinion.

What you look for is what is looking

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None are 100% resistant, just some coconut varieties are much less susceptible. LY has wiped out a lot of Adonidia, Pritchardia, and Latania in So FL.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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Eric, I am most familiar with Palm Beach County but Adonida are virtually ubiquitous in this County and certainly have not been wiped out by LY.This includes areas that are not involved in innoculation programs, although I have heard of losses this year in the Northern County due to cold conditions.

Prichardia simply has never been a prevalent specimen in this area. As best I know, the largest concentration of Prichardia is actually located in Martin County on Jupiter Island.This concentration occured numerous years ago under unique circumstances because of the major cost involved in the establishment of this Hawaian/Tongan specimen in the late 50's/60's. This area of Martin County is really too far North for Prichardia and I know many old Palms were killed and damaged not from LY but from the cold, particularly this last year. I have read that Prichardia is susceptable to LY. However,Prichardia simply has never been prevalent enough in this area to be wiped out by anything, which is unfortunate because it is one of my favorite Palms.

As with Prichardia, so with Lantania.It simply has not been established at a level that would allow it to be wiped out by anything, including LY. It is a slow growing Palm that requires attention, unlike Coconuts. From time to time, you will stumble on an old large specimen. This tells me that it is unlikely LY wiped Lantania into oblivion. It was simply a Palm that was never established at a level of population that would allow it to be wiped out by anything.

LY deciminated the Coconut population in South Florida starting in the Keys in the late 1950's and moving though the Southeast portion of Florida through the 1970's.The Naples area and Ft. Myers seemed to avoid it until sometime in the 1980's, when unfortunately they got hit.

LY is such a bad memory that it is one of those stories that will never go away.It seems that it's perception has outlived it's truth.I guess people still expect to see completely ravaged areas of huge numbers of dead and dying Coconut Palms upon arrival in South Florida. This is simply not the case. I am not trying to discourage vigilance but LY is simply not in the process of devastating the South Florida Palm landscape.Your pictures prove my point!

What you look for is what is looking

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Great pictures, specially love that first one! :)

Southwest

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Pritchardia and Latania were never as popular as coconuts but many were wiped out in SoFL, not just PB Co. in the 70s and 80s. I remember seeing quite a few Latania succumb to LY in the Miami area and down in Ft. Myers. But by the early 90s they weren't being replanted and then Bismarckia jumped on the scene and it seemed there was little demand for Latania.

Adonidia, I remember were also hit but not wiped out like coconuts. But they never stopped growing them and they still stayed popular. I don't see many Adonidia in SoFL suffering anymore from LY, maybe a strain is being grown that shows more resistance like some of the coconut varieties.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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Pritchardia and Latania were never as popular as coconuts but many were wiped out in SoFL, not just PB Co. in the 70s and 80s. I remember seeing quite a few Latania succumb to LY in the Miami area and down in Ft. Myers. But by the early 90s they weren't being replanted and then Bismarckia jumped on the scene and it seemed there was little demand for Latania.

Adonidia, I remember were also hit but not wiped out like coconuts. But they never stopped growing them and they still stayed popular. I don't see many Adonidia in SoFL suffering anymore from LY, maybe a strain is being grown that shows more resistance like some of the coconut varieties.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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