Beccariophoenix alfredii

[gyuseppe]

germination was easy, in one month!

someone to grow? sun or shade?

say resistant to frost lightweight ?

(sorry for my English)

[Patrick]

Hey Gyuseppe,

In Brentwood, CA, USA we have a mediterranean climate, Zone 9. I have seen them in full sun from a strap leaf size, and our sun can get hot. Their root systems grow fast, so give them room, or be ready to transplant to a bigger pot each year.

P.S.- Congrats!

[iamjv]

Do these palms need a lot of iron??? I have one in a 3 gal pot that has turned a very light green... and I think it needs iron? Thanks in advance. Jv

[John Case]

Do these palms need a lot of iron??? I have one in a 3 gal pot that has turned a very light green... and I think it needs iron? Thanks in advance. Jv

JV,

almost certainly...I have found it to be true for all of the Beccarios.....

[gyuseppe]

I have a Mediterranian climate ,If growing in central California, then I think ok for my city.

patrick in Europe there are small plants at a good price, but I prefer germination

ok ! then iron is good for Beccariophoenix

[Caryota_gigas]

I pot these in deep pots and find they take full sun and frost at seedling stage no problem.

[PalmatierMeg]

Giuseppe, Italy is no problem for them - heat, sun or cold. Very robust palm.

[peachy]

Frost does not hurt them at all, even when they are very small. I found that mine need just a little protection from the sun in summer at the hottest part of the day. (more than 35 degrees)

Peachy

[junglegalfla]

Love hearing about these as I just picked up a 3 gal today. I have high hopes for this one!

[JEFF IN MODESTO]

germination was easy, in one month!

someone to grow? sun or shade?

say resistant to frost lightweight ?

(sorry for my English)

I had one barely sprouted made it though 25f... no problem.

Slow though.

[PalmatierMeg]

Love hearing about these as I just picked up a 3 gal today. I have high hopes for this one!

Bren, it should do great for you, too. I have 2 in the ground and waiting for them to get big. Also, have a larger B. mad.

[iamjv]

Thanks John, I'll pick up some iron tomorrow... Jv

[gyuseppe]

I pot these in deep pots and find they take full sun and frost at seedling stage no problem.

Giuseppe, Italy is no problem for them - heat, sun or cold. Very robust palm.

Frost does not hurt them at all, even when they are very small.

all good news

and think that I did not want these seeds:I gift some small palms to my friend in Italy, and my friend told me he had bought these seeds, and wanted to give some seeds,

I said no !, I thought too tropical for me !

but my friend sent them to me!

[Sutter Bob]

This palm seems amazingly tough. Sailed through <25 degrees F this winter, 100 degrees in direct sunlight in summer. Looks like a winner for the Sacramento Valley.

[gyuseppe]

Sailed through <25 degrees F this winter, 100 degrees in direct sunlight in summer.

like a palm perfect for Mediterranean climate

[Sutter Bob]

How fortuitous that this palm might grow in Florence, home of it's namesake.

[Gallop]

If you look hard enough you can see the one I'm growing .

[Alex-v]

I have one bought in 2008.

2009

2010

has performed well and this year I put in the ground.

after winter I will tell you,Gyuseppe.

regards

[Xenon]

If you look hard enough you can see the one I'm growing .

Did you protect this palm during the freeze? It looks just like a coconut . Mine is so slow...

Jonathan

[Gallop]

No protection from the cold only help it had were the surrounding plants.

[PalmGuyWC]

I keep hearing B alfredii will take 25F with no damage. Does anyone know what the lowest temp. they will take with no damage? I recently obtained a nice strap leafed one, a 1 gal size. I'm debating about whether to plant it, or grow it up in a container where I can protect it until next spring. The long range forcast is for a cold winter in the west.

Dick

[yachtingone]

I keep hearing B alfredii will take 25F with no damage. Does anyone know what the lowest temp. they will take with no damage? I recently obtained a nice strap leafed one, a 1 gal size. I'm debating about whether to plant it, or grow it up in a container where I can protect it until next spring. The long range forcast is for a cold winter in the west.

Dick

Dick plant it! There tough! Give it lots of water and heat and sunshine!

Randy

[Gallop]

Dick I had 12 or more nights below freezing with up to 12hr duration. My low was around 22˚f I believe, maybe lower. I had a lot of stuff that kicked the bucket but the alfredii seemed to do OK. Give it a shot.

[M@ximus]

I keep hearing B alfredii will take 25F with no damage. Does anyone know what the lowest temp. they will take with no damage? I recently obtained a nice strap leafed one, a 1 gal size. I'm debating about whether to plant it, or grow it up in a container where I can protect it until next spring. The long range forcast is for a cold winter in the west.

Dick

Dick , here in Rome we have temperature that fall down easily to -7c every winter!

Beccariophoenix alfredii, show leaf demages also @ only - 2,5c for a short time.

I killed 2 nice alfredii ,at his first winter out, when temperature drop to "only" -5c

For sure , if you want try it in the ground, I suggest a well repaired spot!!

Hope that was of help !

M@x

[John Case]

I keep hearing B alfredii will take 25F with no damage. Does anyone know what the lowest temp. they will take with no damage? I recently obtained a nice strap leafed one, a 1 gal size. I'm debating about whether to plant it, or grow it up in a container where I can protect it until next spring. The long range forcast is for a cold winter in the west.

Dick

Dick,

FWIW, I put one in the ground last year and kept the rest in a protected area over the winter. The one in the groung made it through the winter without blinking, the ones in the pots but protected actually have outgrown the one I planted last summer. To note, there maty be issues with rooting, etc. that have temporarily slowed the in grounds growth, which is now pusgin new spears, 2nd one as we speak.

However, the one that I kept in the pots and upsized from 2 gal to 15 gal are notably larger, if not growing faster right now......

So my answer is, I don't know. If you want one of mine that are in a 15 pot right now, let me know so you can have a control specimen.

Thanks,

John

[PalmGuyWC]

John,

I'll surely take you up on the offer of a larger B. alfredii, as I've been looking for a larger one. I'll be happy to pay you for it, or maybe I have something you would like to trade. I have a couple of Para tora tora in 5 gal that need moving up, or better yet, planted. Thanks for your offer.

Dick

[freakypalmguy]

I planted 4, three leaf seedlings two years ago. One with some filtered overhead protection, and the other three with no protection at all and full sun. The first winter in the ground these experienced 26F and many light frost events. The three exposed plants had leaves that were completely ice covered for a very short time one morning and only experienced some light spotting. I've got a bunch planted at my place and it will be very interesting to see how they do as older plants in a serious freeze event in the low 20F range.

[Sutter Bob]

I had one with a few strap leaves in a 5 gal pot here that I covered with a frost blanket for a few nights to about 22 degrees. It looked absolutely unharmed, and took off this spring. I planted it in a relatively open spot on the north side of my house last week. It looks fine. I'll try to post some photos this weekend. We'll see what happens this winter. I lost 2 Kentias in the same general area last year. Wish me luck.

[John Case]

John,

I'll surely take you up on the offer of a larger B. alfredii, as I've been looking for a larger one. I'll be happy to pay you for it, or maybe I have something you would like to trade. I have a couple of Para tora tora in 5 gal that need moving up, or better yet, planted. Thanks for your offer.

Dick

I'll bring it to the meeting at your home and we'll do some horse tradin' unless you want to do it earlier.

[Zeeth]

Mine all lived through our bad winter, and I've heard of them taking down to 19F (with some protection). They like full sun in a moist but well drained soil. I've found them to be variable in speed, some of mine are pushing out their 6th leaf, while some are still working on their second. I could see how someone would rate them as slow if they got one on the slow end of their variability, but I would rate my best performing ones as moderately fast. My fastest one has put out the same amount of leaves/year as my fastest coconut, but the amount of leaves until trunk is much more for B. alfredii.

[Creekside]

I have one planted under an oak canopy and two others in pots (and they definitely respond well to deeper pots.) I left one of the pots out this winter with no protection, wide-open, as a sacrifice to see just what it would take. Unfortunately, I don't know what my lowest temp was exactly, but was somewhere between 22 - 25. It was moderately damaged, but is recovering. I'll try to remember to snap a pic of it. This photo shows the one that I did protect (in a 4-gal pot.)