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Posted (edited)

My Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, 4 mts tall (2,20 mts trunk), 100% freeze burned in winter, has opened two new leaves, partially burned.

When the second one opened i became surprised because i was not seing the new spear, as always before.

Then i checked it inside the canopy and saw that the new spear, with maybe 20 cm, was already opening, as you can see on the pic below.

This behaviour i am also watching in a potted double trunked a. alexandrae: new leaves opening while not yet even 50% emerging from the crown. This one had no freeze damage, anyway.

Could this be a cold damage consequence? Or an effect of excess of seaweed fertilizing?

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Edited by rafael
Posted

I think you're right about it being cold related. I see this all the time. It's as if the palm is opening up the leaf as soon as possible in order to photosynthesize more efficiently.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

is it really more "efficient" if the leaf is not opened to full potential?

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Its excited to be there.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

It's more efficient than being compacted as a spear.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

in the short run,short stuff.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

I've seen cold damaged and newly transplanted palms do this. I don't think it's anything to worry about, it should eventually get it's act together. :winkie:

Zone 9 Central Florida

Posted

I think it's cold damage. My Pinanga coronata stems did the same thing.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

I got that, plus stunted fronds.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Hello Rafael,

I think as well it will grow back to normal during the summer. I'm not a fan of premature opening spears since the leaflets are very sensitive to sun and wind but there's nothing what you can do to keep the spear closed.

I've got various Archontos which had properly root damagages and produced about 4-6 underdeveloped leaves which opened very soon. Yours look so much better and very healthy.

Just as a matter of interest. At what temperatures did it loose its leaves?

Cheers,

Wolfe

Cape Town, Table View

1km from the Atlantic Ocean

Lat: -33.8541, Lon: 18.4888

Mild summers between 17-30 and wet winters 6-20 degree celcius

Average rainfall 500mm

Posted

Hello Rafael,

I think as well it will grow back to normal during the summer. I'm not a fan of premature opening spears since the leaflets are very sensitive to sun and wind but there's nothing what you can do to keep the spear closed.

I've got various Archontos which had properly root damagages and produced about 4-6 underdeveloped leaves which opened very soon. Yours look so much better and very healthy.

Just as a matter of interest. At what temperatures did it loose its leaves?

Cheers,

Wolfe

-3,8ºC, twice, and several -2ºC.

Three heavy frost episodes, several light frost episodes.

That was enough, i was not counting on it...

  • 7 months later...
Posted

My little flame thrower, my king palms and one of my queen palms are all doing the same thing. (all planted within the past 8 months) Boron or manganese deficiency perhaps? Watering issues? All were planted in holes at least twice as wide completely amended with mulch, a bit of compost, gypsum, palm and cactus mix all with my nice native clay :( soil. Night temps down to 37 a few times this winter.

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At least I got some color out of the new leaves!

  • 14 years later...
Posted

I was a bit concerned with this dwarf coconut pre-opening and exposing some yellow which I can assume isn't a major cause for concern spear has grown quite a bit since it was planted but not sure if this is normal or what it indicates. 

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