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bulging crown on foxtail

dp92651

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dp92651

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Hello,

Just a quick question on an observation. I have two foxtails in coastal southern california. Both palms were growing new spears quite rapidly then slowed, although they have both shed old leaves on the crown and appear to be bulging at the crown. Is there any reason for this or is it part of the growth process? The bulge is not large but it is not something I noticed at the nursery. Might just have been my oversight.

Thanks.

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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I think a picture might be better to ascertain the palms' situation.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

peachy Grand Master

peachy

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Welcome to palmtalk. Foxies send up a spear quickly then do a go slow trick opening the rotten things. I wouldnt worry about a bulge, could be anything from another spear about to pop out or they are getting ready to flower. Give them a bit of time, sit back and wait to see what develops.

Peachy

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27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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DP:

wELCOME TO PALMTALK!

We need a picture.

There are many reasons for a bulge, including, getting ready to reproduce (just like people!) :lol:

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Randall SD Enthusiast

Randall SD

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Do the bulges look anything like the one on the side on mine? If so they are getting ready to bloom. In southern California this time of year they seem to start pushing new spears after slowing way down during winter. The spears tend to just sit there unopened until it starts to heat up. When the weather gets warm they start opening in quick succession. At least that's been my experience.

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LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Do the bulges look anything like the one on the side on mine? If so they are getting ready to bloom. In southern California this time of year they seem to start pushing new spears after slowing way down during winter. The spears tend to just sit there unopened until it starts to heat up. When the weather gets warm they start opening in quick succession. At least that's been my experience.

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Nicely grown. Can't find one better in SoCal.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

realarch Grand Master

realarch

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Boy Len, I agree. What a brute.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

peachy Grand Master

peachy

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Oh thats cute !! I didnt know californians bonsaid foxies. :blink:

Peachy

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27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Depending on their size and without a photo I'm going to venture that they are growing flower spathes under that crownshaft.

Meg

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Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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This one in front of a church on my street is pretty nice for a So Cal one also.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I had one that got constipated and the new leaves were stuck inside the crownshaft making it buldge.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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I had one that got constipated and the new leaves were stuck inside the crownshaft making it buldge.

That would be good to use after Natto!

Wodyetia also will show a buldge in the trunk as it matures. A bulge just at the base of the grown shaft is sometimes dicernable as it does this. A more noticable bulge on one side of the crown is usually a bloom spike as mentioned above. This would happen only on "mature" palms. If the palm only has a few feet of wood or less you can have a deformity of some sort which will show itself as the leaves fall off. Wounds caused by burrowing insects sometime cause this.

Also as mentioned above we love pictures. Show us all your palms. We are all palm voyuers.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Pictures!

Pant pant pant pant pant pant pant [etc]!

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Do the bulges look anything like the one on the side on mine? If so they are getting ready to bloom. In southern California this time of year they seem to start pushing new spears after slowing way down during winter. The spears tend to just sit there unopened until it starts to heat up. When the weather gets warm they start opening in quick succession. At least that's been my experience.

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@Randall--pictures are coming soon. In the meantime, any secrets you can pass along in regards to how grew such a great specimen? How far are you from the coast? Mine have brown tipping on most of the leaves, I hear that is common when close to the coast in CA. My tree is about 300 feet.

hanapalms Proficient

hanapalms

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Oooooh those foxies look good... I think we have too much rain here. Mine don't have so much plume. They also get some shade. :huh::(post-3769-12749339709635_thumb.jpg :(

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

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hanapalms Proficient

hanapalms

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Oooooh those foxies look good... I think we have too much rain here. Mine don't have so much plume. They also get some shade. :huh::(post-3769-12749339709635_thumb.jpg :(

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

Visit my palms here

Palms1984 Proficient

Palms1984

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Do the bulges look anything like the one on the side on mine? If so they are getting ready to bloom. In southern California this time of year they seem to start pushing new spears after slowing way down during winter. The spears tend to just sit there unopened until it starts to heat up. When the weather gets warm they start opening in quick succession. At least that's been my experience.

post-1809-12748480590291_thumb.jpg

Nicely grown. Can't find one better in SoCal.

Len:

Randall lives 4 houses down from me...there's many mature beautiful Foxtail palms in our neighborhood. One house has a dozen or so gorgeous, mature trees with several Wodveitchia and Veitchia palms.

hanapalms Proficient

hanapalms

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What happened :mrlooney: Did I do that?

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

Visit my palms here

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dp92651

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I was finally able to get some pictures. The bulge is not as noticeablepost-4360-12749989722888_thumb.jpg in the picture but it should be clear enough. Also, if anyone has some suggestions on how to prevent the brown tipping on the leaves I would appreciate as well. post-4360-12749989840206_thumb.jpg

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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I would not worry about the bulge. As for the brown tipping...I bet thats from you being 300 feet from the Ocean. Salt air can be tough.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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DP:

wELCOME TO PALMTALK!

We need a picture.

There are many reasons for a bulge, including, getting ready to reproduce (just like people!) :lol:

D'OH.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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The Bear was bulgy.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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The "buldge" is just the growing point fattening up. The term "buldging crownshaft" is used a lot when describing palms. Yours looks healthy so don't worry about it. Give it a couple of years to acclimate and grow some roots and your brown tipping issues will reduce or go away completely. It looks shade grown so it'll compact as it acclimates to sun.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Here are a couple of pics of my foxie. She was bulging too...at chest level :blink: . Here is what was behind all the bulging. One inflo and 2 spathes! Anyhows shes hot and I got Veitchias rollin up doing drivebys checkin her out :drool: Seriously though is'nt this a little young to be bulging :hmm: .post-351-12752760733981_thumb.jpgpost-351-12752761235554_thumb.jpgpost-351-12752761651547_thumb.jpg

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