Silver palms other than bizzie

[SunnyFl]

I'm curious - after seeing the pix in the Brahea thread, and the B. armata grown by Palmateer, which palm do you all think has the most intense silver-blue color, after the Bismarkia?

[Patrick]

I've seen really great color (though I don't have a pic.) on a Sabal uresana- there's a pic in the sabal thread- scroll down a bit. A few other good ones are Nannorrhops ritchiana, Brahea decumbens (though you'll never find it) and Serona repens silver. Chamaerops humilis var. Cerifera is pretty nice, too. ummmm................ anyone else?

[Eric in Orlando]

These are some others that can get good blue/silver coloring;

Allagoptera arenaria

Brahea clara

Brahea elegans

Butia capitata

Copernicia alba

Copernicia fallaensis

Copernicia hospita

Livistona victoriae

Phoenix theophrasti

Pseudophoenix

Ravenea xerophila

Sabal uresana

Serenoa repens

Syagrus glaucescens

[ruskinPalms]

Butia species? And aren't there a few date species that are blue?

[chris.oz]

Sabal uresana is very very slow !!!   So assuming you want a palm that will actually grow more than 1 leaf in a year,  and you want cold and drought tolerance,  and impact on a par with the Biz,  Brahea armata is the palm of choice,  except for the wet tropics....where the Biz excels.

My Sabal uresana still has 1 strap leaf after 3 years.   My Brahea aramata have 2-3 strap leaves after 1 year.

[Carlos Simón]

Hi,

I agree with Sabal uresana. I have a small seedling and it´s really blue.

I´d also like to add some Coccothrinax and one of my favorite palms: Trithrinax campestris

Regards,

Carlos

[Utopia Palms]

How about chamaerops humilis var cerifera also very cold tolerant. Also the blue latania (L.loddigesii)

[Gaston in Argentina]

Sunny Fl.

As said by Simon, add to the list Trithrinax campestris. Some forms that come from the mountains are so grey as Bismarkias or Braheas.-

[SunnyFl]

(Gaston in Argentina @ Dec. 04 2006,23:11)

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Sunny Fl.

As said by Simon, add to the list Trithrinax campestris. Some forms that come from the mountains are so grey as Bismarkias or Braheas.-

Are the greyer forms the ones at higher latitudes?   It's interesting that so many of the silvery palms also have a degree of cold-tolerance.  It seems that many of them also are the most drought-tolerant - is there a correlation maybe?

The lists are very good - now which do you all think is the most silver?  L. lodigessii or brahea?  Or maybe C. humilis var. cerifera?

There's a nice silver-y sable at Leu, wonder if this is uresana.  Is anyone familiar with the Hobe (?) variety of Serenoa repens?  Isn't it supposed to have the most color of the silver repens?

[MattyB]

Here's one that no one's mentioned yet.  Brahea decumbens!   A bit on the silver/blue side but a stunner never the less.  This specimine was planted by Al in Kona in his former Lemon Grove, CA garden.

[Palmateer]

(MattyB @ Dec. 05 2006,12:04)

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Here's one that no one's mentioned yet.  Brahea decumbens!   A bit on the silver/blue side but a stunner never the less.  This specimine was planted by Al in Kona in his former Lemon Grove, CA garden.

I thought that looked familiar! Who lives in Allan's former house now?

[MattyB]

Hmmmm, I don't know.

[SunnyFl]

(MattyB @ Dec. 05 2006,12:04)

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Here's one that no one's mentioned yet.  Brahea decumbens!   A bit on the silver/blue side but a stunner never the less.  This specimine was planted by Al in Kona in his former Lemon Grove, CA garden.

It is a stunner.  And, if I may ask an OT question  - what are the blue flowers growing around it, the color combination is very nice.

[steve 9atx]

Chris

Hit that Sabal uresana with some more water (we get around twice as much rain as your 720mm/year) and plenty of fertilizer, including Mg.  Mine is around 4' tall from a strap leaved seedling planted out in 2004.  It puts out around four to five leaves per year and each one gets bigger and bigger.......

The only folks around here trying to grow Brahea that I know of are around 60 miles north of here in another zone altogether.  The wierd thing is that our summer heat and especially humidity produce a chronic mildew problem on the fronds that covers them and makes the whole palm look kind of pathetic.  These are desert palms and not suited to my locale.

From most to least blue for my area: Butia capitata, uresana, Serenoa, Phoenix dactylifera, Chamaerops.  I'm sure someone's growing Nannorrhops too, but I haven't seen 'em yet.  Bizmarkia's just starting to become popular here - it's always amusing to me how close they put those little Bizzies next to buildings.  It either means they don't expect them to survive, or they like palm fronds coming in the windows.

Steve

Houston, Texas

[DoomsDave]

Hmm.

Hi-o!  Silver!

(Who was that man with the paper bag over his head, driving the gold No-Va?)

There's lots of silver in the palm world.

The obvious candidates are Braheas, like decumbens, clara, and armata.

But, there's also Ceroxylon ventricosum (I think) at Pauleen's place in Ventura, oy, so waxy, so smooth, I have to slap myself.

Bizzies, of course, can't forget them.

Phoenix paludosa's got that bloom over it that makes it silvery in the moonlight, oh, mon-cherie . . . .

And, don't forget the silver reverses on the leaves, that kinda flash at you like can-can girls from gay Paree, in the old sense, that is:  Archontophoenix alexandrae, tuckeri, and purpurea; Oraniopsis! appendiculata!  Mommy!  Imagine a Rav. riv dressed in a tux!  Glorious!  Arenga engleri, oh the list goes on and on.

dave

[PalmsZA]

Butia yatay

[PalmsZA]

Chamaerops humilis var cerifera

[The Germinator]

Don't forget the Iranians

Nannorrhops sp. Silver Iran

[AlexnAtlanta]

I love silver and blue palms and palms with two toned fronds.  Here inside the City of Atlanta (low Zone 8a), my favorites include:

-- Bismarkia (which is covered in winter),

-- Chamaerops Humilis ("Cerifera") with ice blue leaves

-- Sabal Uresana (mine grew slow the first year and then took off this summer) with cerulean blue leaves

--  Butia Capitata, the color of which can vary plant by plant

-- Sabal Xtexensis -- many people forget that this sabal can have notably blue leaves

Here's a photo of my Sabal Xtexensis:

[Palmateer]

(MattyB @ Dec. 05 2006,13:44)

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Hmmmm, I don't know.

I asked Allan about it, and he replied, "The people who bought our former house in Lemon Grove, CA are not palm enthusiasts, but they do seem to maintain the plants that were left there after we moved."

[Caribbean Palms]

Here's one not mentioned yet. Copernicia ekmanii from the north coast of Haiti.

[DoomsDave]

(Caribbean Palms @ Dec. 08 2006,18:38)

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Here's one not mentioned yet. Copernicia ekmanii from the north coast of Haiti.

Wo-oh-w!

Yowza!

That rocks.  Haitians have another reason to rejoice, among others that Papa Doc is dead .. .

dave

[bruno]

Here is an alley of vibrating silver, in Nong Nooch garden near Pataya Thailand. I was ther last month. I don't  know the name though there was not mention of it anywhere.

[bruno]

It was a sight! I stayed around on the bridge that overlooks that alley for quite a while, trying to put the ambiance in my photo box. I did not succeed! The palm wer really vibrating because of the very fine leaflets;

[bruno]

Last one of that alley.

[Neofolis]

This palm at Kew seemed very silvery blue, especially compared with the greenery around it.  I assume it is a Butia.

[PALM MOD]

Bruno,

If those shots of Nong Nooch aren't potential nomination material next time around, I don't know what is.

[SunnyFl]

The possibly-Butia at Kew is very silver, what a nice shade, better than the usual greyish tone.

Wish I knew the names of those palms lining the alley in Nong Nooch - does anyone know what they are?  They're beautiful - as is the Copernicia ekmanii (Haiti) - don't think I've ever seen a palm so blazingly white.

Question re: the C. humilis cerifera - it has such a nice color, but don't they green up as they get older?  I've only seen small ceriferas - very impressed by their color.

The photos are great, thanks to everyone for posting them - amazing there are so many silver-blue palms, would be hard to pick a favorite.  Still wonder if anyone knows if there is any correlation between that color and drought- or cold-hardiness, since many of them seem to be.

[bruno]

Dear Sunny FL, when in France designing gardens, in Provence where it is very hot and dry, I used to plant a lots of silver plants because they are drought and heat resistant.

Olive trees are silvery underleaf and they can take lots of heat. Not too much cold; silver does not mean cold resistant but drought resistant I think. bruno.

[Kris]

Dear Guys  

all your stills are terrefic,bruno's stills in this

thread has once again reawakened my passion

to visit that palm heaven in thailand_Thanks Bruno.

I do not know much about addiction be it alcohol or

drugs_But this Noock Nootch gardens is making me

go gaga.

I certainly wish to visit this place before i Die.And even

feel that heaven is right here on the earth.But it is in

eyes of the beholder !

As you all have felt a spining effect in your jaw when

we consuming too sweet confectioneries,that same if

happens to my eyes when i see beautiful things around,

so that beautiful gardens in thai land is no exception at all.

Thanks for those lovely stills & wish to see more.

Love,

Kris.

[Alicehunter2000]

Does anyone know if Sereona repens "blue form" is the same as "silver form" is the same as "white form"?

Visited the Florida east coast recently and it was very striking to see all the S. repens "blue form" growing wild everywhere. I kept looking for one in seed but was not there at the right time.

Does anyone have pictures of the Catholic? Church in Miami near Fairchild's with all the Bismarkias? The gorgeous Thailand pictures made me think of it. Man those are beautiful!

David

[SubTropicRay]

Are those Copernicia hospita?

[SunnyFl]

(Ray @ Tampa,Dec. 12 2006,07:30)

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Are those Copernicia hospita?

Which ones, Ray?  The palms at Nong Nooch?  Cuz I'm dying to know what those lovelies are.

(Alicehunter2000 @ Dec. 12 2006,03:54)

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Does anyone know if Sereona repens "blue form" is the same as "silver form" is the same as "white form"?

Visited the Florida east coast recently and it was very striking to see all the S. repens "blue form" growing wild everywhere.

There's also, I think, a variant of S. repens called the Hobe-something.  I believe it's a very silver form - can anyone verify this?