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The One Plant You'd Like To Have, But.....


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Posted

Hey Palmers! Just throwing this hypo out there! What's the One Palm you can't have, for whatever reason... cold, heat, size, speed of growth, whatever, that prevents you from having in your garden.

Without any question, for me, in southern California, I'd like to have a grove of Cocos Nuciferas around the perimeter of my garden, eventually around a pool. How about you?

Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

Posted

I can do without the coconut no problem. But if I had to choose one I'd say it's a real bummer that we can't grow Areca vestiaria here in CA. Here's a pic from Bo's place in HI.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Ahhhh crap, see, now you got me looking at the pictures of Bo's place and I've gotta throw in another one: Euterpe precatoria!!!!!! aHHHHHHH man what a palm.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Very nice no question. Very tropical inedeed. Different strokes, for different palm wackos I guess. In my opinion, you just can't achieve true

palm paradise without a Coco. Something about a Pina Colada from a Coconut off your own tree just sounds right to me in so many ways! But that's what

this thread was for! Bring it on Palmers!

-eric

Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

Posted

For me it would be Lodoicea maldivica. sad.gif

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

I've always had a crush on Adonidia. Especially, the golden form.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Posted

All of your Adonidias are yellow, John...and then brown.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Tahina spectabilis if you're gonna dream...go big :-)

...but oh to have a coco take in cali....nice.

Posted

I can't say just one. It would be 75% of the palms on Marcus slideshow. Some of those you just can't get,growing it would be secondary.

San Marcos CA

Posted

Lemurophoenix

Oh, heck, while I'm dreaming:

Campecarpus

Lepidorrhachis

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

All of your Adonidias are yellow, John...and then brown.

That's the way I like Adonidias. Youze got a problem wit dat? Brown is a legitimate color in the palette, you know.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Posted

Of the palms I can't have it would be Euterpe precaetoria, hands down. A close second would be Neovetchia storkii.

Fortunately I can - and do - have my favorite. Even if it must stay in a container.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

Posted

Lemurophoenix

Roystonea oleracea

Cyrtostachys renda

Coconut

Beccariophoenix with windows . . . .

And many many more

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Posted

Okay i like this topic and here is my favouriate palm...The Talipot palms. :D And i do not know wheather my garden can handle these jamboos...

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Love,

Corypha...:lol:

love conquers all..

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Posted

1. Pritchardia pacifica: ever since seeing the photo of the cluster of four in Palms of the World by McCurrach, I've been entranced, & rarely disappointed seeing it in real life, either.

2. Iriartea deltoidea

or maybe Copernicia fallaense & C. baileyana

or maybe Thrinax radiata & Coccothrinax argentata

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

Posted

Even with excellent conditions, some palms are just difficult to come by:

Bentinckia condapanna

Areca macrocalyx

Dypsis sp. bejofa

...to name a few.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Okay i like this topic and here is my favouriate palm...The Talipot palms. :D And i do not know wheather my garden can handle these jamboos...

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Love,

Corypha...:lol:

Wow Kris, I have just had three of these germinate and I want to plant at least one at home and the pic of you puts their size into perspective, might have to rethink where I was going to plant it :lol:

My favorite that I so far cant have due to rarety of seed :( is Lodoicea maldivica, I have a friend that has one and it is to die for. :drool:

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

Posted

The dwarf Syagrus are my dream palms at the moment: S. lilliputiana, graminifolia, microphylla, duartei...

I've been trying seeds of lilliputiana for some months now but they are so difficult to sprout... :angry:

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

Posted

Mine would have to be Johannesteijsmannia magnifica. Not because it wouldn't grow but I can't seem to be able to source any seed or plants. I've got J. altifrons and it needs its cousin for company.

And while I'm at it, a Lodoicea maldivica would also be nice.

Posted

Sablah :D

It's OK to dream Bob :mrlooney:

I remember Dean showing pics of a palm with a really bitchin blue crownshaft, anyone remember which one that was, because that's the one I'd want.

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

This would be a great poll! Only problem is the limitation of how many palms could be listed as options. Not nearly enough! laugh.gif

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

Matt,

is this the one? Dictyocaryum lamarackianum. Kim took the photo last Oct when she and her husband were here. I've even used it in my Profile! :)

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Sablah :D

It's OK to dream Bob :mrlooney:

I remember Dean showing pics of a palm with a really bitchin blue crownshaft, anyone remember which one that was, because that's the one I'd want.

Matt

Would that be his Dictyocaryum lamarckianum? - gmp

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Posted

For me it would be Lodoicea maldivica. sad.gif

I agree, my choice, too. Mature and juvenile specimens in a grove

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted

Matt,

is this the one? Dictyocaryum lamarackianum. Kim took the photo last Oct when she and her husband were here. I've even used it in my Profile! :)

Bo-Göran

That's it Bo, thank you.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Sablah :D

It's OK to dream Bob :mrlooney:

I remember Dean showing pics of a palm with a really bitchin blue crownshaft, anyone remember which one that was, because that's the one I'd want.

Matt

Would that be his Dictyocaryum lamarckianum? - gmp

Thank you Dr. George, you and Bo are on it.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Cyrtostachys renda and Lodoicea maldivica

In that order.

Jeff

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

Posted

Lodoicea maldivica, Voanioala gerardii, a 90 ft Jamaican tall coconut (ive got 3 sprouts though, so I'm on my way), Lipstick palm, Pigafetta, Pritchardia pacifica (got sprouts for this too, but my climate will ultimately be too cold), and a trunking Beccariophoenix alfredii, but no one has one of these in cultivation yet (I've got a ton of sprouts and 4 plants though).

Boy, aren't I greedy! :mrlooney:

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

Areca macrocalyx

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Cyrtostachys renda and Lodoicea maldivica

In that order.

Jeff

Jeff's choices are the same as mine. I would say Cocos also but now with Becariophoenix 'alfredii', I may have what at least looks like a couple of mature coconut palms in a few years.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

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Elegant Homes and Gardens

Posted

Matt,

is this the one? Dictyocaryum lamarackianum. Kim took the photo last Oct when she and her husband were here. I've even used it in my Profile! :)

Bo-Göran

That's it Bo, thank you.

Now look what you have done, I have to add this one to my list now, great looking palm Bo :D

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

Posted

My My My....

You palmers are Getting Greedy Now! As the thread clearly states, "The ONE palm..." try to narrow it down. you only get one palm, just one, that will grow in your garden that normally wouldn't. So far, I'd say the Dictyocaryum lamarackianum and that giant "Talbots?" palm that Kris had have to take the cake for best selection! I'm curious to see what the growers in Hawaii would like to have, considering it seems like they can have darn near anything! Thanks for your input and enthusiasm on this thread! Spring is coming!

-eric

Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

Posted

Rhopalostylis

(Corypha, Ceroxylon, Jubaea, Lodoicea, Pigafetta, Cyrtostachys renda, Tahina - notable mentions)

Posted

Mine would have to be Johannesteijsmannia magnifica. Not because it wouldn't grow but I can't seem to be able to source any seed or plants. I've got J. altifrons and it needs its cousin for company.

And while I'm at it, a Lodoicea maldivica would also be nice.

Cairns is the place for silver joey... I lost mine to sprinkler malfunction and I haven't been to Cairns ever since to pick another one...

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted

Living in a flat in sunny Scotland the range of palms I can grow is limited at best, since I'm stuck to growing them in pots indooors. That said, I'm lucky to be growing a very healthy J. altifrons so that's ticked off the list. However, it'd be incredible to have a few Coryphas growing around the village - genetic modification can surely come up with Coryphas as hardy as a Trithrinax and as fast as a Pigafetta, so get on with it!!

Mark Peters

Indoor palm grower

Monifieth, near Dundee

Scotland's sunny NE coast

Posted

Areca macrocalyx

like this ?

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The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

Posted

My My My....

You palmers are Getting Greedy Now! As the thread clearly states, "The ONE palm..." try to narrow it down. you only get one palm, just one, that will grow in your garden that normally wouldn't. So far, I'd say the Dictyocaryum lamarackianum and that giant "Talbots?" palm that Kris had have to take the cake for best selection! I'm curious to see what the growers in Hawaii would like to have, considering it seems like they can have darn near anything! Thanks for your input and enthusiasm on this thread! Spring is coming!

-eric

Only one? Come on! :mrlooney:

In that case, a genetically modified Jamaican tall coconut that's 100% LY resistant, grows as fast as Pigafetta, and is as hardy as Butia. Come on Monsanto, get working!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

Eric,

You asked for input from growers in Hawaii. The reason I didn't add anything in my previous post is for the simple reason that this is actually a very hard question for me to answer. With about 625 species currently in our garden, there's really nothing that I desperately want to add that I don't already have. Sure, I'll be adding a few more every now and then, as new species may become available, but at this time I don't know what those species are. And the bottom line is that, if I get them fine, if not, no big deal. I guess, in a warped sense, that's the drawback of having a garden in Hawaii! :mrlooney: At some point, you run out of dreams of what to plant. Sure, there are a dozen or so palm species that, for whatever reason, just won't grow here, but for every single species that falls in that category, there are probably a hundred species that will thrive beyond belief, so not losing any sleep over that! :) I guess this is the ultimate good news-bad news scenario in the palm growing world. You have pretty much everything you want, so nothing new to dream about! OK, maybe a few more currently undiscovered big Dypsis! That's my best shot! :lol:

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Well, since I've chased down some Dictyocaryum lamarckianum, top on my want list is the ever elusive Bentinckia condapanna. It's just not available, but I do have a close eye on a few that are in the ground in hopes of tapping into a future generation.

(BTW - if you know a reliable source for plant or seed for this, send me a PM) - gmp

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