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It's cold in France too...

jonimic

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jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Here are a few shots I took at home in Bordeaux, France, this morning...

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Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

_Keith Grand Master

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Here are a few shots I took at home in Bordeaux, France, this morning...

Cold or not, that's an awesome looking garden you got there. Congrats.

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jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Here are a few shots I took at home in Bordeaux, France, this morning...

Cold or not, that's an awesome looking garden you got there. Congrats.

Thanks Keith,

That's what the garden looks like in summer...

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Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

samirbouag Proficient

samirbouag

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whaouu c'est trop beau t'es trop fort

yes is cold too

i from marseille in provence and it's snowing!!!!

jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Yep Samir, j'ai grandi à Nice (d'où la passion des plantes tropicales je suppose...), but know I freeze in Bordeaux every winter. The garden is protected by a 20 feet wall on the right side and although badly exposed (North east) I've been able to grow quite a few species of cold hardy palms...

A bientôt..

Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

samirbouag Proficient

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hi

you are really lucky.

your garden has a micro climate which should be great for bordeaux

for a North-East expo, is a beautiful garden.

you should try the Syagrus Santa Catherina.i love this palm tree .

ciaoooooo :D

Peter Pacific Mentor

Peter Pacific

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Wonderful pictures! I love the intimate feel of the seating areas and the walkways through your garden. Good job, best of luck, Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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nice garden, I hope it doesnt get colder than average! Its been so cold here I just wish it would snow already! LOL!

Samir, do you grow the Santa Catarina Queen palm? any pics or hardiness reports?

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

fdrc65 Enthusiast

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nice garden, I hope it doesnt get colder than average! Its been so cold here I just wish it would snow already! LOL!

Samir, do you grow the Santa Catarina Queen palm? any pics or hardiness reports?

nice small garden! In the north east of my house I can grow only trackycarpus..

My seedling of syagrus rom. litoralis seems untouched after 2 nights at -7' And -5' C and 2 days under 0 C. Try this too if you want a syagrus in your garden

ciao

Federico

Ravenna , Italy

USDA 8a\b

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basilios Community Regular

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A perfect little garden indeed. Very well maintained and aesthetically great!

Europe has seen much cold lately, but in our country, southeastern Europe, so far we have had an uncommonly warm winter, in fact I can't recall a winter like that and I'm 43 years old. Most of the days we have been having 18-20C (64-68F) and our nightime lows (at least where I live) are kept pretty high, at around 15-17C (59-62F).

Tomorrow the Athens area is forcasted for temps between 20C (68F) and 12C (54F), and Miami for 11-3C (52-37F), so this will be the mid-winter day when Athens will be actually warmer than Miami!!! Amazing...

Paleo Faliro, coastal Athens, Greece

Lat 37° 55' 33" N - Lon 23° 42' 34" E

Zone 9b/10a, cool winters, hot summers, coastal effect

jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Thanks everyone for the nice comments.

I started the garden 9 years ago from nearly nothing, only an old Lagerstroemia indica (flowering tree) and a big ficus carica (fig tree).

There are 26 species of palms in the ground and I'm growing many others (about 120) in pots that I take in the greenhouse in winter. We had temperatures of -11°C in this garden last year, but all the palms made it. This year we only had -5°C so far, so it should be fine...

I do should try a santa catarina syagrus (I've actually been to Santa Catarina State in southern Brazil in 2000 and just didn't bother gathering seeds...me idiot !)

Best of luck to all of you guys (and girls... sorry), keep the germination box alive....

Jonimic

Here's a shot of Trachycarpus princeps.

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Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

Lowey Experienced

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Jonimic,

Love those pics, welcome to the crazy world of Palms and the IPS, I can see you are one of us already, Beautiful garden mate, talk later.

Lowey.

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

gilles06 Experienced

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Hi,

The temperature dropped to -5F! in bretigny sur orge a small town at the south of Paris, that's an historical record.

There's a lot of snow in the all country.

Brrr...

Salut.

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Jonimic,

Your little garden is absolutely beautiful, even with the snow on the ground. You appear to be wildly addicted to your palms like so many of us here. Let me ask you, the palm in the lower left hand corner in post #3, is it Chamaedorea microspadix? I know this species is very cold hardy. Thanks and good luck....

PS....and we are experiencing some unusally cold temp's right now for the Fort Lauderdale/ Miami area.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Thanks again for the kind new comments.

Yes Jeff, it is a Chamaedorea microspadix. Believe it or not, I never lost any chamaedorea microspadix, would it be in my Bordeaux garden, where we had -11°C last year for a couple days, or Lacanau-Ocean, on the coast, in sand, where temperatures also went down to -8°C.

They got a few burnt leaves, but spectacularly re-grew in spring.

Only Chamaedorea radicalis is as hardy (hardier even) I believe, unless you experienced that kind of hardiness with other species in the genus.

It is -5°C while I'm writing this morning, but very dry and nice actually!!

Will send news after the cold snap (which seems to be hitting the whole northern hemisphere, doesn't it?)

Cheers

Happy New Year

Jonimic

Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Beau jardin & Visuals belle

Aimer,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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freakypalmguy Grand Master

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Very nice Jonimic. I'm surprised that Chamaedorea microspadix and radicalis can take snow.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Very beautiful Garden Jonimic. Thanks for showing us!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Exotic Life Grand Master

Exotic Life

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Hi.

Can't see the snow pictures anymore from palms in snow, so also I prefer the summer shots, Nice garden.

It's really weird cold this year to see how far into europe the cold can be, only southeast europe has got some nice weater. I saw some pics yesterday from the sky on Europe, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, UK, and many more countries white from the snow. Everywhere there are records from the cold what you don't see that so much. Few days ago I saw the forecast for Nice, they got light frost every night... really weird.

Let's hope summer come very fast again! ;)

Robbin

Southwest

jonimic Contributor

jonimic

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Yeah Robbin, you're right, I don't think "that much" of Europe is getting struck by frost that often. Maybe once every 20 years or so. But see, the northern hemisphere as a whole seems to be hit by pretty cold weather at the moment. So let's be optimistic, and consider that from now, any palm species that made it through this tough winter should be in every garden next year...!

I'm surprised you don't get any lower temperatures in the Netherlands than I get in Bordeaux. I had -11°C last year. You didn't ! I'm moving to the Netherlands tomorrow !!

Jonimic

Bordeaux, France

Min. temps : -12°C (observed in the garden in 2007)

Max. temps : +42°C (observed in the summer of 2003)

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