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I was just wondering? Are there any mature trachycarpus princeps around in private gardens?? Over here there just seedlings for sale.

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I was just wondering? Are there any mature trachycarpus princeps around in private gardens?? Over here there just seedlings for sale.

Boko,the palm was discovered a few years ago,so it´s impossible that there are mature palms in cultivation,at least outside China. :)

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Thanks ,it could be the reason why I don,t see them so much?!

Lets refrase my question then , who got the biggest princeps so far!

Peter

Posted

Mine's in a 5 gallon pot and stands approx. 8" tall. I win!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

I'm gonna have to take a picture of it first.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Speaking of which, this thread on T. princeps in habitat, at FousDePalmiers.fr, has some of the most spectacular palm photos ever. If you haven't seen it, you have to take a look!

Trachycarpus Princeps en photos

I was just wondering? Are there any mature trachycarpus princeps around in private gardens?? Over here there just seedlings for sale.

Boko,the palm was discovered a few years ago,so it´s impossible that there are mature palms in cultivation,at least outside China. :)

zone 7a (Avg. max low temp 0 to 5 F, -18 to -15 C), hot humid summers

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Posted

Matty mine is taller than 8"

test

Posted

According to Stephane, the guy who has posted the topic on "fous de palmiers" many thousands princeps are being field grown in Spain for the European market.

MANU

Manu, France Z8A

Posted

Mark, thanks for sharing that link, there are some amazing photos in it! Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

I have quite a few of these coming along, mostly seedlings. I have a few 5 gallon plants. The largest is about 16 inches tall to the top of the leaves, the largest leaf being 10 inches across.

The white from the back of the leaves wraps around the margins of the leaf giving it a white outline when viewed from the front, really cool!

I grow many different species of Trachycarpus. Most are pretty slow growing. T. fortunei is one of the fastest, and I'm finding that T. latisectus and T. princeps are as fast, if not faster.

These are going in the ground in the spring. T. Princeps

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Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

Glenn,

Those are nice looking plants. I have two T. princeps that should have gone in the ground this year, but I can't figgure out where to plant them. I think they will take off once in the ground.

The 5 gal. T. wagnerianus that I planted 4 years ago have grown like rockets. Two of them have 10 feet of trunk, and 4 of the 5 bloomed this year, all of them males. I'm hoping #5 will be a female.

I've had two weeks of chilly nights, but the T. wags still seem to be growing. All of my other palms have gone into hibernation.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Thanks for al the reply's! I hope its true about princeps growing in Spain for the European market can't wait to try one in my garden.

peter

Posted

Hi!!!!

This is mine, mine, mine :lol: :lol: :lol:

August 08 - and not very fast growing in the last year :winkie:

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Greetings from a litte village near Salzburg/Austria

Moni

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USDA 5b (up to -26° C)

It is very hard for me to see, how many plants are growing around the the world, which I don't have in my collection!!!!

Posted

Here is mine. Got some sunburn just after planting this spring. Defitnely not the my fastest Trachycarpus when it's growing in a container, don't know yet how fast it's gonna grow now it's in the ground.

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Southwest

Posted

An other little gem! But I want to see them bigger, size does matter you know!

Posted (edited)

Hi,

You would not find them much bigger then the size in the picture from Glenn. I have seen them availeble with truncs from 5-8 cm heigh and never bigger because the reason what Alberto told here above. And if you want to buy a size like that, they are quite expensive.

A nice big princeps would be great, but for planting size does not always matter. The strongest and biggest palms here in the garden where all planted at a quite small size. The are growing up in our climate and give much bigger truncs then imported palms from southern europe. For example i have several Trachycarpus fortunei in my garden growing and a few where planted with only 20 cm of trunc and later a big one with already 2 meters of trunc. At the moment the small planted ones the trunc is already bigger then the big planted one but the trunc height is shorter then the bigger one. I do also grow a Washingtonia robusta and that one is getting a real fat trunc as well.

Size does matter, but planted them big is not always the best way to get strong palms over here.

Robbin

Edited by Exotic Life

Southwest

Posted
Glenn,

Those are nice looking plants. I have two T. princeps that should have gone in the ground this year, but I can't figgure out where to plant them. I think they will take off once in the ground.

The 5 gal. T. wagnerianus that I planted 4 years ago have grown like rockets. Two of them have 10 feet of trunk, and 4 of the 5 bloomed this year, all of them males. I'm hoping #5 will be a female.

I've had two weeks of chilly nights, but the T. wags still seem to be growing. All of my other palms have gone into hibernation.

Dick

Yes, this is a good question...for those of us in hot, inland areas, is this a good, full late day sun palm? Ive thought about planting some out by my pool in the late summer sun areas but don't want to fry them.....anyone out there have some input here?

Wow! That is tremendous growth for any palm! Ive always considered the Wag a fortunei in a tuxedo...and have always considered that it grows at least as fast....but yours sound even faster. My three flowering Wag's are all males.

I think T. princeps likes our climate...mine have outgrown other plants ive seen. They don't like potting soil, I think they do better in an alkaline mix, but I'm not completely sure on this yet. I need a couple more years to see what happens.

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

Glenn,

My T. princeps has grown pretty fast this year. A couple of fronds got a little burned during one of our heat waves this summer. I'm thinking a little afternoon shade might be best.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted
I was just wondering? Are there any mature trachycarpus princeps around in private gardens?? Over here there just seedlings for sale.

Here's a pic of my one which came as a rootless seedling/small palm from Ruud Guudwhatever in Thailand about 5 years ago. Never looked back since being planted out and has had a couple of hard winters. Pic was taken early summer and is slightly bigger now.post-3778-1259355833_thumb.jpg

Posted

Nice palm Dave its looking good my 5 leafer has to go out next year its not liking potted culture.........

BTW did your Curculigo crassifolia flower this year?

Zone 8b

Central UK

Average min over last 5 years -5.1 C

Posted

Thanks Kev. For those who don't know Kev is referring to the coconut sprout lookalike in front of the princeps .No flower this year but it has flowered for the previous few years. Got a few hundred seedlings but very slow.

Posted

Very nice the biggest i have seen in a private garden so far. thank you.

Posted

This one is mine ,about 12 cm off trunk.

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Posted (edited)

Hello,

my name is Dirk. I'm comming from germany.

I would also know, who has the biggest princeps. :drool:

On my homepage you can see some of my T. princeps. The biggest one is No. 5.

Let me show you a picture.

Greetings

Dirk

http://trachycarpus-princeps.de/images_princeps/img0224h.jpg

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Edited by trachycarpus-princeps

visit my homepage: www.trachycarpus-princeps.de

Posted

Thats a fantastic palm Dirk I like the way you have kept it upright as they are known to lean and fall over.........how long have you had them all?

Zone 8b

Central UK

Average min over last 5 years -5.1 C

Posted

A beauty Dirk, fantastic palm !!!! this is what i mean.

Posted

Dirk,

That's a great photograph and you may have the largest one of all. I haven't seen any that size before, and it's interesting that yours has lots of fiber growing along the trunk. Can you grow palms outside where you live in Germany?

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Here is an image of my T. princeps 3 years in the ground next to my T. latisectus 10 years in the ground.

The latisectus gets defoliated in winters where temps drop below 22°F. This winter it didn't reach that low.

This image was taken after last winter, early spring 2009.

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Taken end of Nov 2009

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Nove 2009

Posted

Tonysgarden2009066.jpg

End of winter 2009

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end of Nov 2009

T. princeps trunk Nov 2009

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3 years in ground

T. latisectus 2009

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10 years in ground

Posted
End of winter 2009

end of Nov 2009

T. princeps trunk Nov 2009

3 years in ground

T. latisectus 2009

10 years in ground

Tony, I always so enjoy your posts! Another great one here! Your cold hardy garden has to be the crown jewel of the midwest! Your princeps looks incredible...but your latisectus is very slow compared to the growth we get here. Wow, keep up the good work, I look forward to seeing more of your garden in the future.

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

Tony,very nice collection!

I have also 4 very slow and 3 faster T.latisectus growing at my place.

What is the palm growing between T.latisectus and T.princeps (background) on the second pic? T. oreophillus????

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted
Yes, this is a good question...for those of us in hot, inland areas, is this a good, full late day sun palm? Ive thought about planting some out by my pool in the late summer sun areas but don't want to fry them.....anyone out there have some input here?

Wow! That is tremendous growth for any palm! Ive always considered the Wag a fortunei in a tuxedo...and have always considered that it grows at least as fast....but yours sound even faster. My three flowering Wag's are all males.

I think T. princeps likes our climate...mine have outgrown other plants ive seen. They don't like potting soil, I think they do better in an alkaline mix, but I'm not completely sure on this yet. I need a couple more years to see what happens.

Glenn,

Ask Randy in Riverside (yatchingone). He's the one who told me that I could take mine out of my greenhouse and put it in full sun. It's loving it out in the sun. I think he said it did fine with the inland heat.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Thanks all..

The palm is question is a R. hystrix.

The T. latisectus is a slow grower for me because:

1- It is not in an ideal location. It is near my driveway and has been run over by my car a few times.

2- When temps drop below 22°F. The palm defoliates and has to start the subsequent growing season with a reduced food making source.

:)

Posted

I accidently potted up two T. princepts in cycad soil and two in the palm cactus box store mix amended with pumice and perlite. The two in the cycad mix are more robust than the other two. They seem to like being in full sun in the ground as seedlings. They grow slower though. I will post pics soon.

test

Posted
Thanks all..

The palm is question is a R. hystrix.

I mean that blue/grey palm with V shaped very upright fronds.... at the background

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

I mean that blue/grey palm with V shaped very upright fronds.... at the background

Alberto... It is a Brazoria county palm. Sabal minor species with very large leaves and trunk

Posted
I mean that blue/grey palm with V shaped very upright fronds.... at the background

Alberto... It is a Brazoria county palm. Sabal minor species with very large leaves and trunk

Thanks!

In some time your palms will form a dense jungle :) .....

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

  • 4 months later...
Posted

Here is mine. Got some sunburn just after planting this spring. Defitnely not the my fastest Trachycarpus when it's growing in a container, don't know yet how fast it's gonna grow now it's in the ground.

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Robbin, how is your princeps in the ground?

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