whats the most $$$$$$ a jubaea ever sold for ???

[trioderob]

so we know that larger trunking jubaea are worth alot of money.

anyone hear any stories about the hightest prices that they have sold for ???

[Kim]

Why do you ask?

[FRITO]

a fellow member in West Texas has sourced some large Jubaea, They are exspensive when you have to bring out the cranes and the 18 wheelers!

[trioderob]

a fellow member in West Texas has sourced some large Jubaea, They are exspensive when you have to bring out the cranes and the 18 wheelers!

I think the crane is $2000 per hour.

[Breadfruit Bill]

Do you have one for sale? PM me.

[LJG]

Not even close. Depending on size, you can get one to move a Jub for under $200/hr.

Most that I know a person paid is $30,000

a fellow member in West Texas has sourced some large Jubaea, They are exspensive when you have to bring out the cranes and the 18 wheelers!

I think the crane is $2000 per hour.

[MattyB]

Rob, you're like the riddler. Are you planning a hostile take over of the IPS?

[paulgila]

thats the emoticon for "floor."

i am just gonna stay down here for a while.

[trioderob]

Not even close. Depending on size, you can get one to move a Jub for under $200/hr.

Most that I know a person paid is $30,000

a fellow member in West Texas has sourced some large Jubaea, They are exspensive when you have to bring out the cranes and the 18 wheelers!

I think the crane is $2000 per hour.

Now we are getting somewhere

30k for a jub

I really am surprised that you can get a large crane for 200 per hour.

so lets say it takes 5 hours to move a large jub - you can do it for a grand ? - thats sounds low to me.

please let me know who would move a large jub for that price.

as for me- I am growing one to keep - and dont plan on selling it years down the road.

(but for 30k anything is possible)

Edited October 8, 2009 by trioderob

[PalmGuyWC]

There is a story floating around here in N. Calif. that a palm enthueasist turned down 60K for his large Jubaea. He had only had the palm moved and planted about 2 years before. I saw the palm and it was beautiful with about 40' of woody trunk. It looked like it had never been moved. I asked him why he didn't take such a generous offer and he said, "because I wanted to own a Jubaea larger than yours, and it was such a hassle moving it." I don't know how much money he had invested in the palm, but it had to be a lot.

When we hear the outrageous prices for mature Jubaeas, it's usually the moving opperation that costs as much or more than the palm.

Dick

[Little Palm]

You are low on the crane costs, probably closer to 2K. I need to go plant some seed!

[iamjv]

Dick, when it comes time to sell your place, you need to have those jubs appraised and work that into the selling price... Jv

[Gtlevine]

$40,000.00 for a specimen with 20 feet of trunk was the most I have seen.

[LJG]

If you live next to where the crane leaves from, yes. But rememebr, you pay from the minute they leave to the time they return. If you need to mobe large trees, call B & C Tree. They also have a crane service. Rememebr also, that is just crane cost. You need to pay for the Semi and labor.

I really am surprised that you can get a large crane for 200 per hour.

so lets say it takes 5 hours to move a large jub - you can do it for a grand ? - thats sounds low to me.

please let me know who would move a large jub for that price.

[PalmGuyWC]

As most of you know, instant gratification is not a virtue if you grow palms, and particularly in California. The easiest way to become a proud owner of a Jubaea is to purchase them when they are 5 to 15 gal. size, plant them, and then wait 30 years. The smaller sizes won't break the bank account, and half the fun of growing palms is watching them grow. Smaller Jubaeas are attractive even before they form a trunk, and they will grow in just about any climate zone in Calif. where other palms grow.

If I were a young man and had plenty of space, I'd plant about a dozen spaced at least 30 feet apart. They would look great lining a long driveway. Next to a drive, they would be eaiser to move in 30 years and you would have enjoyed watching them grow. I bet after 30 years you wouldn't want to part with them.

Dick

[turfpro01]

There is a house here with 3-4 that are over 20' of trunk, they have already started to get the thinner truck up hi. I heard he paid $20,000 each, and spent over $300,000 total for all the palms and cycads around his house. Best looking landscape of palms Ive ever seen. Wish I could get pics, but its in a gated comunity and I would have to get permission from the owner.

[DoomsDave]

I heard ofthe CUlt of Jubes, up in Grass Valley, who, supposedly, paid about $30,000 for a mature specimen, including the trucking and craning, and I heard there was about 30 feet of clear trunk.

[Surf Guy]

I was involved with a crane lift today and we had a 30 ton crane with 100' of boom for $100.00/hr. with a two hour minimum.

[_Keith]

As most of you know, instant gratification is not a virtue if you grow palms, and particularly in California. The easiest way to become a proud owner of a Jubaea is to purchase them when they are 5 to 15 gal. size, plant them, and then wait 30 years. The smaller sizes won't break the bank account, and half the fun of growing palms is watching them grow. Smaller Jubaeas are attractive even before they form a trunk, and they will grow in just about any climate zone in Calif. where other palms grow.

If I were a young man and had plenty of space, I'd plant about a dozen spaced at least 30 feet apart. They would look great lining a long driveway. Next to a drive, they would be eaiser to move in 30 years and you would have enjoyed watching them grow. I bet after 30 years you wouldn't want to part with them.

Dick

You are right that I would not want to part with them, but my widow would, laughing all the way to the bank, I suspect, lol.

[trioderob]

I was involved with a crane lift today and we had a 30 ton crane with 100' of boom for $100.00/hr. with a two hour minimum.

so lets talk about this:

when I was talking to Dr Darian he indicated that moving a big jub from one side of san diego to the

other would be around 3-5 grand.

he was not the only one who has given me this approx figure.

so is this about right to dig -transport and plant a 20' jub over a distance of lets say 20 miles ?

Edited October 13, 2009 by trioderob

[Gtlevine]

I had a friend in Carlsbad move one with 15 feet of trunk for under $2000.00.

The best way is to buy one close to trunking still in a pot. I have this one at my home, not for sale at this point, but is the perfect size palm to start with. Two foot trunk in a seventy five gallon pot.

Gary

[palman]

Perhaps up to $500 for a rooted out 50 gallon is as much as I'd pay.

Buy a smaller one and watch it grow.

[Gtlevine]

If you have 20 or 30 years, watch it grow. I just hope I am still alive to see all my Jubaea's with trunk.

Gary

[BS Man about Palms]

Perhaps up to $500 for a rooted out 50 gallon is as much as I'd pay.

Buy a smaller one and watch it grow.

Just curious, where exactly did you see those for sale?

(although $750 wouldn't seem out of line if you could find one. They are kinda hard to find for sale between large 15 gal/box size and trunking.)

[BS Man about Palms]

Also,

Sorry Gary, I know you rarely read where we have chastised you for posting great pix from your photobucket account instead of downloading to Palmtalk, then when you move, or delete or whatever, we just see the "photobucket logo". So, I copied and am resaving it to the site for the future.

Particularly frustrating on some of your Madagascar photos.....

PS- Fantastic shot!!!

[Gtlevine]

Bill, I purposely delete photos from my account after a couple months. It is my answer to "post bumping"

Gary

[PalmGuyWC]

Gary,

Unless you have a lot more, how could you even consider parting with such a beautiful speciman? I've never seen one potted that size. What is one that size worth?

Dick

[BS Man about Palms]

Bill, I purposely delete photos from my account after a couple months. It is my answer to "post bumping"

Gary

No worries, when I see a cool giant Dypsis pic from the habitat in a thread in the future, I'll just do what I did here, only takes a few seconds...

I have definitely gone back to peruse old threads... rarely bump though.

[LJG]

Gary, my first reaction was "Wow. That sucker is huge and I can't believe you guys got that into that pot.". My second was "Is Gary wearing sandals with socks?"

[Gtlevine]

You caught me Len. I asked Josef to stand next to the palm so I could take the photo but he refused, so I slipped my feet into the sandals without thinking about it. Now I got Bill saving all my photos so that one will live on forever, total geek.

Gary

Gary, my first reaction was "Wow. That sucker is huge and I can't believe you guys got that into that pot.". My second was "Is Gary wearing sandals with socks?"

[Gtlevine]

Your right Dick, anyone who likes palms would never part with a big Jubaea. It happens that I love them alot and planted over 100 Jubaea so I have plenty. That being said, I would still have a hard time selling that plant and I will have to think long and hard if I indeed want to part with it. As far as cost, since it is not for sale at this time and this is not the "sales forum", I would not want to put a price on it.

Gary

Gary,

Unless you have a lot more, how could you even consider parting with such a beautiful speciman? I've never seen one potted that size. What is one that size worth?

Dick

[MattyB]

I still think you're a sexy ranch hand Gary.

[Gtlevine]

I still think you're a sexy ranch hand Gary.

Damn!, I know I will have a hard time living this down.

[iamjv]

Fabulous looking Jub Gary.... truly eye candy! Jv

[Phil]

Although I am rarely involved in brokering large Jubaea, the diggers typically try to get $1700 to $2000 per trunk foot retail to customers on nice specimens with established trunk. And, for fine specimens, they seem to be getting it. This is the cost without digging/transport. Once plants are the size of Gary's plant above, they aren't that slow and can put on trunk height every year. It's getting to that 50g that's the pain. It is without a doubt the most valuable dug plant there is in So Cal. And, Gary you will live to see lots of trunk on your plants. I suspect you'll be surprised how they grow as they get bigger. I think Ken Johnson in Miami would be a good expert on the costs of digging/craning, etc. That's what he does for a living. I know the cost depends on the reach, location, weight, and other factors. I had a friend who wanted a 15 foot trunk Canary taken over his house and planted by the pool and he called many crane people and couldn't get a bid for under about $5000 to $7000 for the crane alone. But, he said it took an enormouse crane to make the reach with this heavy plant, so that jacked up the price.

Phil

[PalmGuyWC]

Phil,

Since Gary would not put a price on his Jubaea because it is not for sale and in the wrong forum, would you venture a guess on it's value? Since it's a perfect speciman, established in a container, and would be easy to move and plant, that should be taken into consideration. My guess would be between $1500 and $2000, but I could be way off.

Dick

[Ken Johnson]

I did not look at this topic untill now just to give time for you Cali guys to enlighten me as to what prices are like out there. Crane companies do not make profit from the palm so thier price is fixed. The weight of the palm and the distancde it is to be set from the crane plus travel time equals crane cost. Some compnies are a bit more but most are about the same price. Transportation is also based on time and or distance. The cost of diging the palm is also somewhat fixed. The cost of labor from a landscape company is more than if you contract your own labor but you then must know what to tell the labor to do. Digging a palm is not rocket science but it must be done right to keep the palm alive. Then there is the cost of the palm. This is where cost is variable. Keith's widow may be in a hurry to sell the palm so she can move to France so her price may be very low. Dick may sell his before he dies so he has some time (but not much lol) to wait for the best offer. A nursery may grow some for 20- 30 years and have a big retail price on it but this is not common. The best senario for a low price is when there is a "fire sale", divorce, foreclosure, or any quick sale. A buyer in this position can name a VERY low price and save a huge amout of money. In between is a seller like me that provides palms that are bought low and sold high but still within an afordable price, most of the time lower than what the nurseryman would charge after 30 years. Therfore when dealing with specimen plants of any kind prices vary depending on the price paid to the owner more than anything else. Some specimens may be free others can be top dollar.

[PalmGuyWC]

Ken, you B#$%@$#!!! My foot is not in the grave...........yet. The only way my Jubaeas will move is over my dead body! I hope they will stay where they are, but we don't have much control when we are 6 feet under.

Dick

[Phil]

Phil,

Since Gary would not put a price on his Jubaea because it is not for sale and in the wrong forum, would you venture a guess on it's value? Since it's a perfect speciman, established in a container, and would be easy to move and plant, that should be taken into consideration. My guess would be between $1500 and $2000, but I could be way off.

Dick

Dick,

I think your estimate is probably correct. I've never been able to grow one to this size at my nursery before it sells. My suspicion is that Gary field grew this and dug it (he's not that old). But, he can clarify this plant's history. In a container (not field growing), getting one this big would probably take 15 years. They are much faster in the ground than containers. I've got some 24 inch boxed Jubaeas and they are about 8 inches, only putting on an inch a year in diameter. For a nursery to care for and hold on to a product to produce one like Gary's will take a tremendous amount of time and could prove not to be advantageous for the nursery. Also, it's an interesting thing about large plants. I've found that most of our customers prefer a 5g or 15g pot sized plant. About one in ten to twenty will look seriously at larger plants and boxes. I don't think it's only a cost thing; it is also the apparency that large containers take more physical work to put in the ground and this scares many home owners. They feel it's "too much for them". People on this list are motivated by the plants and would go to the effort to plant a big container. But, most customers won't; they know they'd have to hire someone else for planting and don't want to do that.

Phil

[Nigel]

But, he can clarify this plant's history. In a container (not field growing), getting one this big would probably take 15 years. They are much faster in the ground than containers. I've got some 24 inch boxed Jubaeas and they are about 8 inches, only putting on an inch a year in diameter. Phil

The UK imported many from Chile grown in oil drums, and a 15 year old grown in an oil drum would be half the size of garys. To buy a Jub equal to Garys, field dug and imported from Chile would cost around US$2000.

Given good soil and lots of fert and irrigation I am guessing it may be possible there in california to pot grow it in 15 years , certainly field grown palms can achieve that size in that time and maybe more. Will be interesting to know its age.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Nigel