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Posted

Hi all,

I just noticed that down in the crown of one of my palms was a bunch of earwigs, are they harmful to palms? Are they munching on it or just nesting. The palm is about a 5 gal size, 18" tall, strap leafed, and appears very healthy.

Thank you,

Matt

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Matt, I have millions, no make that billions, of these guys around my place. They love dry mulch. They do like to nest in the crowns of certain palms but don't seem to cause any damage. I periodically spray out the crown with a jet of water just to wash out the gunk but they're harmless. I get them all over inside my house too. They cannot be stopped. I've been meaning to take a short video of what happens when I turn over a large rock. The ground moves with thousands of them all scattering for shelter. It's pretty impressive.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Well but dont let them get to your ears :blink: actually it´s just a myth and besides nasty look they are harmless indeed. I have them here too even inside during summer :angry:

howdy

Posted

I told Paul to put his ear to the ground so he could hear them talking. Now that's the only thing that's in his head.....thousands of earwigs....and soup. I just tell it like it is.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted
:angry: They caused spear pull in my little Bismarckia a couple years ago. It survived, but I still don't like the little !@?*!!!'s. Perry

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

Posted

Earwigs can be VERY destructive. I would try to get rid of them. I've heard that they will hide in short sections of garden hose laid around the garden in the evening, which can then be emptied into a bucket of soapy water in the morning. Repeat as necessary. :) I've not tried it, so can't vouch for its effectiveness.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
hardiestpalms.com

Posted

I've also heard that you can lay some corrugated cardboard around and they'll hide inside there, then you can just throw it away. But this won't work for Matt's place in Temecula, only in a small garden.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

I had one crawl in my ear and wrap itself around my cerebral cortex. Ricardo Montalban was able to control me like a puppet. I was able to overcome the creature's mind control and serves as Enterprise tactical officer in the climactic battle against Khan.

Sorry no photos.

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Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Posted
I had one crawl in my ear and wrap itself around my cerebral cortex. Ricardo Montalban was able to control me like a puppet. I was able to overcome the creature's mind control and serves as Enterprise tactical officer in the climactic battle against Khan.

Sorry no photos.

I remember once watching an old horror movie (black & white?) where the doctor was finally able to extract the offending earwig from the ear of a woman who was being driven crazy. The bad news: it was a female, and had laid eggs! :o - at which point the movie ended. Don't know if there was a sequel.

(Of course, earwigs do not infest people's ears.)

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
hardiestpalms.com

Posted

Confession time. It was an earworm known as a Ceti Eel. Not an earwig. Earwigs don't crawl into ears.

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Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Posted
I had one crawl in my ear and wrap itself around my cerebral cortex. Ricardo Montalban was able to control me like a puppet. I was able to overcome the creature's mind control and serves as Enterprise tactical officer in the climactic battle against Khan.

Sorry no photos.

I haven't had a good belly laugh from anything that I've read here in a long time. This one did it. I was so not expecting what you wrote... Thanks!

Doug Gavilanes

Garden Grove, CA.

Zone 10A (10B on really good days...)

Posted

They make good food for carnivorous plants!

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Carl

Vista, CA

Posted

and

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Carl

Vista, CA

Posted

mmmm!

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Carl

Vista, CA

Posted

I have them everywhere as well. I think in every single potted plant I have is a few taking up housekeeping. I have tried to stay mostly organic here, and seeing no evident damage I have tolerated them.

But I confess to not liking them.

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Posted

Hilarious. Like Doug said, I didn't expect these responses either :floor:

Thank you all for the advice, I went ahead and blasted them out with water.

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

You're not really detering them with the water, they'll come right back in a matter of minutes. But it does wash out the earwig poo and dirt....poodirt.

Terry, I was belly laughing too. Especially when you said, "sorry no photos". :lol:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Classic photo William! :lol:

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Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Posted
You're not really detering them with the water, they'll come right back in a matter of minutes. But it does wash out the earwig poo and dirt....poodirt.

Terry, I was belly laughing too. Especially when you said, "sorry no photos". :lol:

I went out and sprayed with some bug killa. Thanks dude.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted
Classic photo William! :lol:

Excellent :)

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Great pics and dialogue!

Hmm. I've not found that they harm palms at all. I think they like dicots much better.

CLICK HERE FOR EARWIG ARTICLE

Earwigs is the common name given to the insect order Dermaptera characterized by membranous wings folded underneath short leathery forewings (hence the literal name of the order—"skin wings"). The abdomen extends well beyond the wings, and frequently, though not always, ends in a pair of forceps-like structures termed cerci. The order is relatively small among Insecta, with about 1,800 recorded species in 10 families. Earwigs are, however, quite common globally. There is no evidence that they transmit disease or otherwise harm humans or other animals, despite their nickname pincher bug.

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  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

I planted a 15g Jubaea last year. During the winter it started declining to the point where this spring, just the last couple spears had stalled and were browning. I marked them a month ago and they have hardly moved, but are now starting to open as our daily temps are in the 80's. Yesterday I checked the growth marks and tried to see if the spear would pull. Several earwigs came out of the growth point. Not sure it the earwigs are/were the cause of the decline, or just taking advantage of the situation.

Like others, we have these everywhere, but I have never seen them in a palm, only under pots and piles of mulch.

Robert

Madera, CA (central San Joaquin valley)

9A

Posted

Are you speaking about the Vincent Price classic 'The Tingler"?

The basic premise was that when people get scared, a tingle wnet up the spine and when they screamed, the tingle went away. He scared a mute woman who could not scream, operating on her spine and removed the 'Tingler' which looked like and overgrown earwig. Of course it escaped and proceeded to wreak havoc amont the populus. My memory of this movie is when the Tingler was tracked into a movie theater and Price ran in and shouted "The Tingler is loose, everybody scream!" which of course disabled the Tingler temporarily.

A SciFi classic!

I had one crawl in my ear and wrap itself around my cerebral cortex. Ricardo Montalban was able to control me like a puppet. I was able to overcome the creature's mind control and serves as Enterprise tactical officer in the climactic battle against Khan.

Sorry no photos.

I remember once watching an old horror movie (black & white?) where the doctor was finally able to extract the offending earwig from the ear of a woman who was being driven crazy. The bad news: it was a female, and had laid eggs! :o - at which point the movie ended. Don't know if there was a sequel.

(Of course, earwigs do not infest people's ears.)

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John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

Posted

Seem to only go after compromised palms.

Wrath of Ricardo

Probably the second movie I saw in the theater. The bug sequence left me terrified to this day.

Wrath of Khan is my favorite of the bunch, although I haven't seen the new one.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

Posted
Seem to only go after compromised palms.

Wrath of Ricardo

Probably the second movie I saw in the theater. The bug sequence left me terrified to this day.

Wrath of Khan is my favorite of the bunch, although I haven't seen the new one.

Actually, I may have been thinking of this old Night Gallery episode.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
hardiestpalms.com

Posted

Tales of the crypt had an episode where a man hired someone to put one in his wifes ear while she slept to get rid of her..... But since it was dark... they got the wrong one and put it in his..... Oh well!

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

Posted
I tame and ride them...

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William,

What a great photo!! How friggin long have you been waiting to post that one????? That was Fantastic!!

Terry,

Thank you for the laugh!! I watch Star Trek as well and had a great chuckle w/ that one!!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Yeah yeah...old thread. But I wanted to tell you guys a good way of trapping them I found out about online. Used cooking oil in a can.

I placed one out about a week ago next to some potted plants. And notice it knocked over the next day, I guess the cats may have did that looking for something tasty. Anyways I prop it back up and there's only like a film of oil left. Checked the can today and found about 2 dozen of them in there. So I learned it doesn't have to be a lot of oil. Just enough to keep them from crawling out. If you put enough cans out there you can control them. They only reproduce once a year around late winter here.

Earwigs, I guess, are picky eaters and do not just eat anything. Once they find something they like, it can drive you crazy. I have noticed they love eating young banana leaves (and they love nesting in banana plants too. Among other things, they eat the new growth on Citrus hystrix, catnip, and several types of vegetable seedlings. Thankfully they don't eat palms at least not any of the types I have.

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Posted

But seriously, all laughing aside, I really did have an earwig crawl in my ear while sleeping. It was really unpleasant having it bang around on my eardrum as it tried to crawl further down my ear canal. I had to get to the doctor that morning as soon as they opened, and they crushed and removed the nasty beast. Even to this day, I don't want them around my garden, gives me the tingly-willey-crawlies.

But no, I've never seen any damage to palms; just sometimes filling the void spaces between roots of potted plants.

Gig 'Em Ags!

 

David '88

Posted

How do these get in the garden, do they blow off on windy days? I don't see how these could hurt plants

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Sol Cooper

Hobart Tasmania

42 degrees South

Mild climate - mostly frost free

Posted

nice...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

  • 10 years later...
Posted

I didn't wanna start a new thread but I've noticed earwigs are living under my mulch around my sabal palmetto, I just want to be sure that they aren't gonna cause any damage?

Posted
1 hour ago, ZPalms said:

I didn't wanna start a new thread but I've noticed earwigs are living under my mulch around my sabal palmetto, I just want to be sure that they aren't gonna cause any damage?

Some homework, about Earwigs:

https://blog.nature.org/science/2020/07/13/weird-and-unbelievable-facts-about-earwigs/

https://owlcation.com/stem/Earwigs-Facts-Myths-and-Natural-Pest-Control

Posted
6 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

So they are just hiding or taking refugee in my mulch? so they won't cause any harm to my sabal? I saw that they can eat live plant material but then theirs other benefits but I just don't know

Posted
6 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

So they are just hiding or taking refugee in my mulch? so they won't cause any harm to my sabal? I saw that they can eat live plant material but then theirs other benefits but I just don't know

Mulch is a nice, mild and moist environment ..perfect hiding spot for them, and most other ground dwelling insects.. As long as there is plenty of other things to snack on, they're generally less likely to go after plants.. mainly young and tender plant parts..  European Earwigs may attack plants more often than native sp. though. Really like soft stuff like over ripe fruit, seedlings like beans over tougher plant material. Though they may sample that sort of stuff.. 

As the last article mentions, you can set out traps to keep numbers in check ..if you see any problems.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Mulch is a nice, mild and moist environment ..perfect hiding spot for them, and most other ground dwelling insects.. As long as there is plenty of other things to snack on, they're generally less likely to go after plants.. mainly young and tender plant parts..  European Earwigs may attack plants more often than native sp. though. Really like soft stuff like over ripe fruit, seedlings like beans over tougher plant material. Though they may sample that sort of stuff.. 

As the last article mentions, you can set out traps to keep numbers in check ..if you see any problems.

My yard naturally has tons of them but I think they may have enough stuff to keep them occupied as I live near a swamp and theirs tons of springtails ect, as far as I can tell the sabal doesn't look bothered or touched so their must be enough bugs under the mulch for them to eat, Thanks!

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Posted
13 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

My yard naturally has tons of them but I think they may have enough stuff to keep them occupied as I live near a swamp and theirs tons of springtails ect, as far as I can tell the sabal doesn't look bothered or touched so their must be enough bugs under the mulch for them to eat, Thanks!

Yep, as long as they're fat and happy, they generally aren't much trouble. Don't think they've bothered anything i have here.. Birds love them.

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  • 2 years later...
Posted
On 4/20/2009 at 12:10 PM, freakypalmguy said:

Hi all,

 

I just noticed that down in the crown of one of my palms was a bunch of earwigs, are they harmful to palms? Are they munching on it or just nesting. The palm is about a 5 gal size, 18" tall, strap leafed, and appears very healthy.

 

Thank you,

 

Matt

 

http://www.paranormalknowledge.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/earwigs.jpg

saw one on my patio while practicing basketball on a 60 degree day in December 2021, pretty sure I smashed it LOL

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