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can i control the size that a bismarck gets in a pot say about a 20 gallon pot how big will it get

Tantalizing Tropicals L.L.C. specializing in bananas, heliconia, ensete, rare palms, gingers, plumeria, and birds of paradise

freakypalmguy Grand Master

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can i control the size that a bismarck gets in a pot say about a 20 gallon pot how big will it get

I think I remember reading recently, others saying that Bizzies don't do well long term in pots. Anyone?

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

John Case Grand Master

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I understand that they throw a long taproot and are unsuitable for pots over the long term. After all, they are very large trees, especially given they don't grow that tall. more massive than tall.

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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TT!

You are the Man! Wisconsin???

THAT's pushing boundaries . . . . .

Unfortunately, I have to agree that keeping a bizzie in a pot for the long term probably isn't a good idea, but you have no choice where you are so, do it anyway and we might learn something.

Specimens kept in pots too long tend to get stunted.

That said, there is huge number of other palm species that will do well in pots for a long time.

Rhapis, Rhapidophyllum, Sabal minor, Chuniophoenix and many many more.

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Kathryn Veteran

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I had one in a pot for about seven years and it did fine. I'm sure it would have grown much faster (larger) if it were in the ground during that time. I decided to try it in the ground even though the temperature drops below 28F some winters. It got damaged every winter, but grew well. I figured it would not be good long term so I removed it this weekend to put something more cold hardy in the spot. I wish I had kept it in the pot.

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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Alot depends on your climate. This palm here will get alot of roots (no tap root) very quickly if kept in a pot. After a few years, it will start to slowly decline over a period of time unless you A) repot it into a bigger pot, or B) plant it into the ground. Grow it for as long as you can and then maybe you could then donate it to a botanical garden near you if they have an indoor conservatory.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Ken Johnson Grand Master

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I would like to promote the ideas that any palm can be grown in a pot forever, that Bismarkia can grow to over 60" tall and that no palm has a "tap root".

All plants have extremes that will kill them but when done right palms make incredible bonsai specimens. Some nurserymen specialize in them and man are they cool! Just gotta do it right. Look at some info on bonsai and see how it's done.

Palm seeds that have remote germination (not a real technical thing but you should know about it if you really want to grow palms) can trick people into thinking the have tap roots. They do NOT. Once established all the roots are basically the same. Because they are monocots they behave different than dicots. (Another point to learn when growing palms)

Anyone have a picture of a 60' Biz/ They are fairly common in S. Florida.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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TT:

Ken's point about taproots is well-taken.

The reason for that little myth is that Bizzies are "remote germinators" that is, they send a "sinker" which is a root with a shoot inside, deep into the ground, which makes a "u-turn" and pops up again where the leaves show above the surface, sometimes a long way from the seed.

ONce the plant grows, however, it's got the usual medusa head of roots like snakes like all palms have.

Keep us apprized!

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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That's the same as keeping a lion in a small cage, the lion will live, just, yet it would be so unhappy and would look nothing like it should. Cruel to the lion, cruel to the bizzie.

Amen

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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hey everyone thanks alot for the info everyone here is so helpful not like other sites thanks again ppl im gonna keep it in a small pot as long as i can i live in wisconsin zone 4-5 near green bay so i will grow it in the house till its around 12 feet than i dont know what ill do with it i plan on putting it outside in spring summer and fall i got a good friend with room in his house if it gets bigger than 12 feet tall how much should i be watering this thing in the winter i also go some ruffled fan palms and chinese fan palms in the house they sit in darker corners all year no sun light is that ok for them or will they not grow as long as i had the ruffled it never put out a new leave im new to palms so any info is apprecated these palms aint like the hundereds of bananas i got i cant chop these down every year and put them to sleep over winter

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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