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I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Posted (edited)

I have a 7 gallon that was left to test what winter could throw at it, I had a low of 21.6 with other nights in the low 20's and it came out flawless. it was fine last winter as well with lows in the 20's.

hardier than a queen for sure.

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Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Posted

Very Nice, where did you pick your up from?

Posted

My mules survived 14F in the freeze of 98. Only the 3 or 4 center fronds stayed green and the others were damaged. Only minor trunk damage and they looked fine by the folowing summer. They are standing proud and tall now. They all had woody trunks, so I don't know how young ones might have taken the freeze.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

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Hi, mallet sj:

Nine of my short-trunked XButyagrus were hit by +10F years ago. There was no green tissue in sight. Dug down to unfrozen meristem; and eight survived!

merrill

N.C. Fla.

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merrill, North Central Florida

Posted

Dick, thanks for the info, go to know they can take those kind of temps.... Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

while were are on the subject of mule palms: I recently aquired a Butia capitata x syagrus coronata

anyone have an idea of how hardy this cross might be? The Butia was the mother palm.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Posted

Hi, Frito:

Many years ago I had B. capitata X S. coronata, but didn't keep it alive long enough to tell. It is reasonable that it would be much less coldhardy than XButyagrus.

Best Wishes,

merrill

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merrill, North Central Florida

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According to the book "Chilling Injury of Horticultural Crops" (look it up on Google books), studies, at least with many plants, have confirmed that when two species with greatly differing cold-hardiness levels are hybridized, the F1 progeny tend to inherit the hardiness of the hardier parent...the hardier genes being dominant, rather than yielding an intermediate hardiness. This can be muddied with F2 hybrids because the markers are scattered throughout the DNA. Also the book notes that hybrid-yielding parents that have only slightly differing hardiness levels tend to be intermediate in their progeny's tolerances. So it makes sense that most anything crossed with Butia will be near Butia's cold-tolerance threshhold. One odd thing I've personally noted is that the 'Foxy lady' hybrid xWodveitchia (using arecina as pollen donor), even as a tiny plant, has been remarkably freeze-hardy and chill-tolerant for me here. Others have noted this as well. Absolutely undamaged here at 24F in a 15-hour freeze, though the leaves were protected, by light overhead foliage, from frost-formation (and others have noted that the foliage is still frost-tender). Very strange because it appears to actually be markedly hardier than either parent. I wonder if any geneticists can make a comment on that one...

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Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

Posted

Michael,

That's very interesting and useful informaton. My own experience has shown that Parajubaes show foliage damage with frost and temps. below 25 F, while Butia X Parajubaea has taken 23F with frost and shown no damage. There are reports that Butia X Parajubaea crosses have taken it as low as 18F and even 14F with no damage.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

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Last year i planted 400 3 gallon Mules at my palm grove in Frostproof/Lake Wales. It was recorded a 14f low w/ very heavy frost. All of the 3 gallon Mules had their newly emerged/opened spear fry and they all pulled. Yes there was

little worms and i treated w/ a pesticide and a week later i treated w/ copper fungicide. I hope they make it!!!

The larger ones went unfazed w/ zero damage.

I'll keep everyone informed as to the progress of their survival.

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted
  Mark Heath said:
Last year i planted 400 3 gallon Mules at my palm grove in Frostproof/Lake Wales. It was recorded a 14f low w/ very heavy frost. All of the 3 gallon Mules had their newly emerged/opened spear fry and they all pulled. Yes there was

little worms and i treated w/ a pesticide and a week later i treated w/ copper fungicide. I hope they make it!!!

The larger ones went unfazed w/ zero damage.

I'll keep everyone informed as to the progress of their survival.

Wow Mark, that is a serious bummer. Have you tried surgery on any of them? I have tried this on numerous palms and helps them recover faster. A buddy of mine in the valley below me recorded 15F in 07 and had hundreds of Queens pull spears. I watched him snip the tops off them until solid fresh palm matter could be seen. One half hour later, we walked back by the first one he cut and the spear had already pushed up 1/16". 24 hours later they were up 1". Most recovered just fine. I believe when a spear pulls, the cavity that the spear comes out of constricts and blocks the spear that is attempting to emerge. Sometimes it will push out past it, but it takes a lot longer. Smaller palms that have not reached trunking age will show damage after a few years of growing.

Good luck buddy,

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted
  Mark Heath said:
Last year i planted 400 3 gallon Mules at my palm grove in Frostproof/Lake Wales. It was recorded a 14f low w/ very heavy frost. All of the 3 gallon Mules had their newly emerged/opened spear fry and they all pulled. Yes there was

little worms and i treated w/ a pesticide and a week later i treated w/ copper fungicide. I hope they make it!!!

The larger ones went unfazed w/ zero damage.

I'll keep everyone informed as to the progress of their survival.

Mark,

That would really be a shame if you lost all those mules, I'm praying that most pull through.

Planted an year to early, but who could have forseen those temps there? :rage:

Just curious how are your 2 big foxtails and coconuts doing? Showing some green growth I HOPE!

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Posted
  gsn said:
  Mark Heath said:
Last year i planted 400 3 gallon Mules at my palm grove in Frostproof/Lake Wales. It was recorded a 14f low w/ very heavy frost. All of the 3 gallon Mules had their newly emerged/opened spear fry and they all pulled. Yes there was

little worms and i treated w/ a pesticide and a week later i treated w/ copper fungicide. I hope they make it!!!

The larger ones went unfazed w/ zero damage.

I'll keep everyone informed as to the progress of their survival.

Mark,

That would really be a shame if you lost all those mules, I'm praying that most pull through.

Planted an year to early, but who could have forseen those temps there? :rage:

Just curious how are your 2 big foxtails and coconuts doing? Showing some green growth I HOPE!

Hey Scott,

Yes, there is good news regarding the huge Coconuts and the two large Foxtails!! They have shot up about a foot of green growth!!! Looks like they will all make it, but the Cocos will have stunted fronds probably and i'll have to wait a few years for them to start producing coconuts again.

Hey Matt,

I wish i had known your surgery tactic sooner, i would've done it on some of them and waited. I am going back there in a cpl of weeks so i'll let you know if surgery is needed.

I can see it now,,,,, nurse, (w/ my hand sticking out) pruners,,,,,,scalple,,,,,,beer,,,,,,pruners,,,,,beer,,beer,,,beer!! :mrlooney:

It will be tough though, the only fronds that were damaged was the delicate new spear, all the other fronds were not damaged and i don't want to cut those off, is there a way to do this???????? Would've been easier if all the fronds were blasted then i would'nt hesitate to perform your surgery method!!

Hey wait a minute,,,, i thought you were an airline pilot!!! Doctor as well??? You one talented mo fuggy!!!!!!!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted

They seem to do just fine in DFW I have three in the collection , i think they are as tough as a pindo or better, mine have seen upper teens with no damage. and are fast growers, Great palms!!

Posted
  Mark Heath said:
Hey Matt,

I wish i had known your surgery tactic sooner, i would've done it on some of them and waited. I am going back there in a cpl of weeks so i'll let you know if surgery is needed.

I can see it now,,,,, nurse, (w/ my hand sticking out) pruners,,,,,,scalple,,,,,,beer,,,,,,pruners,,,,,beer,,beer,,,beer!! :mrlooney:

It will be tough though, the only fronds that were damaged was the delicate new spear, all the other fronds were not damaged and i don't want to cut those off, is there a way to do this???????? Would've been easier if all the fronds were blasted then i would'nt hesitate to perform your surgery method!!

Hey wait a minute,,,, i thought you were an airline pilot!!! Doctor as well??? You one talented mo fuggy!!!!!!!

:lol: No talent her, just a grasshopper/paduwan learner. But beer is an important element of any botanical surgical procedure.

Wow that is a tough one, with all the green foliage. I would just experiment on a couple and see what happens.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Anyone got pictures of their great mules?

Posted

here is a shot from the palm grove. I did take an overall pic from afar up on a hill. I'll retrieve it from my camera later today and post that one too.

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Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted

a single shot!

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Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted

Hey Matt,

Here is the pic i promised you! Off in the distance you can see rows of green. I could'nt fit the whole property in the pic but you get the idea, from big to small. Smallest being the 3 gallons planted from last year, and later next month another 300 will go in the ground!

post-518-1237460889_thumb.jpg

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted

Hi Mark,

Good Lord! You have enough mules to landscape all of Florida. It looks like they are reaching a good size. How large do you plan to grow them until you start selling them? How do you plan to market them? I wonder if many landscape architects even know about them or the general public. Nothing but questions here........but I wonder if they are uniform in apperance or if some look different.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Very nice Mark. How many acres is your lot? How many do you plan on planting?

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted (edited)
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

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Posted
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

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Posted (edited)
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

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Edited by ErikSJI
Posted
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

Fourth Photo a field of 65 gallon Mules. To many to count. Brooksville Palms. Richard Whatley.

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Posted
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

Hi Eric, you might allready be, but if not, it would be appropriate for you to be an IPS member for you to promote your goods here. No biggie, it's just the rules.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

Fourth Photo a field of 65 gallon Mules. To many to count. Brooksville Palms. Richard Whatley.

How cold can you go? These are all xbutyagrus seedlings. Had to bring them in this winter. They were to young for 14F for the San Juan island project.

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Posted
  freakypalmguy said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

Hi Eric, you might allready be, but if not, it would be appropriate for you to be an IPS member for you to promote your goods here. No biggie, it's just the rules.

I thought anyone could show pictures of there palms? Should I just not state where they are from?

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  ErikSJI said:
How cold can you go? These are all xbutyagrus seedlings. Had to bring them in this winter. They were to young for 14F for the San Juan island project.

It appears from that picture, that these palms were all placed on top of the snow for a "posed" shot. Seems a bit deceptive to me as these would all be dead if they were left outside with that much snow.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted
  freakypalmguy said:
  ErikSJI said:
How cold can you go? These are all xbutyagrus seedlings. Had to bring them in this winter. They were to young for 14F for the San Juan island project.

It appears from that picture, that these palms were all placed on top of the snow for a "posed" shot. Seems a bit deceptive to me as these would all be dead if they were left outside with that much snow.

They were placed out side when the pipes froze. They sat out for two days in 14 F would you like some more snow photos. All of them were frozen solid. They pulled through well.

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Posted
  ErikSJI said:
  freakypalmguy said:
  ErikSJI said:
How cold can you go? These are all xbutyagrus seedlings. Had to bring them in this winter. They were to young for 14F for the San Juan island project.

It appears from that picture, that these palms were all placed on top of the snow for a "posed" shot. Seems a bit deceptive to me as these would all be dead if they were left outside with that much snow.

They were placed out side when the pipes froze. They sat out for two days in 14 F would you like some more snow photos. All of them were frozen solid. They pulled through well.

And of course there were causalties.

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Posted
  freakypalmguy said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  ErikSJI said:
  mallett_sj said:
I'm about to recieve a mule palm and I live in DFW, I hear from people in the DFW area that they do great here and haven't run in to any issues with them, what are some of the places people have succesfully grown mule palms, and if you've got any after winter pictures that would be great to see the performance of the mules after winter.

Hello Spencer. Did you say you got your Mule palms from Brooksville palms?

You should check out the european palm board as well they have posted many entries, and photos on how there Mule palms did this winter and it was one of the worst winters in years. They did very well. Here are some photos of Brooksville palms and Mule palm nursery. We have just sent our first international orders of xbutyagrus to the U.K., Ireland, Spain, France, Netherlands, and Canada, and are cleared to send to all 50 states now as well. Our partner Brooksville Palms has over 20,000 xbutyagrus now, and we have around 7,000 potted up. Seedlings will start sprouting again in June - Dec. We are expecting around 15,000 this year. We are in the process of revamping our website and will post lots of photos and a weather station in Washington state where we are putting around 300 in the ground on the San Juan Island about 5 miles south of Victoria Canada.

Fist Photos is a field of Mule palms. To many to count. Located at Brooksville palms. Brooksville Florida.

Second photo is Mark Lynn Owner of Mule palm nursery with one of his curved mules.

Third Photo is around 6,000 xbutyagrus seedlings. Mule palm Nursery.

Hi Eric, you might allready be, but if not, it would be appropriate for you to be an IPS member for you to promote your goods here. No biggie, it's just the rules.

Thanks Matt for the heads up. I have joined.

Posted
  PalmGuyWC said:
Hi Mark,

Good Lord! You have enough mules to landscape all of Florida. It looks like they are reaching a good size. How large do you plan to grow them until you start selling them? How do you plan to market them? I wonder if many landscape architects even know about them or the general public. Nothing but questions here........but I wonder if they are uniform in apperance or if some look different.

Dick

Hello Dick,

I plan to sell them when they're specimen size. I am a foreman who works government work only and have many contacts throughout the state of Florida. Also, i am a graduate in architecture from a local community college here in Orlando. My partner was an engineer w/ Turner, a very large enginering firm throughout the country. We also have a related friend who is on the "board" for the expressway authority. Too many contacts to list,, would probably be best that i did'nt!!! We have many people in high places that are waiting for our Mules to be specimen size!!!

We have a cpl of thousand at the grove in Lake Wales and alot more here at my place where i grow them untill they're 3gallon size and then they go south to the grove.

I don't plan on selling anytime soon, this was a retirement plan!!! I have 22 more years before i can retire, at least untill i can collect SS!!!

Right now at the moment i just sell/give to friends!! I guess you could say that this is a hobby/lifelong dream!!!!

I am still waiting for my good friend Matt to come here!!!!! Hint hint!!!!!!!! Bring big empty luggage!!!!!! :winkie:

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

Posted

What do I know, but it seems there is going to be an over supply of Mules soon. Have any cities bought any great quanaties of them or will they go to big box stores? Are there any tree lined streets of Mules yet? A grove of them in a public park would sure look nice. I'm just wondering where the demand will come from since most people have never heard of them and they would probably buy a Queen since they would be cheaper.

I suppose they could be featured in new subdivisions, but there aren't many new houses being built with 9 million repo empty houses sitting around.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Mark,

You posted your letter when I was writing mine. Instant answer......thank you.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Too bad we [meaning all of us] didn't start earlier. These $6000 - $9000 P. dactylifera are being installed in considerable numbers in nearby Gainesville, Florida. Much to my surprise, these P. dactylifera are not very coldhardy; they show more damage than XButyagrus. The XButyagrus is much coldhardier; it is a real shame that it wasn't planted rather than P. dactylifera. A much smaller XButyagrus could have produced the larger palm in a much shorter time.

Mark:

You can do this in confidence if you prefer, but what is the largest XB you sell, and for what price?

Best Wishes,

merrill

merrill, North Central Florida

Posted

Impressive 'collection' of mules Mark! Wow!!! I can only imagine how Florida is going to look in a few short years.... wonderful! Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

Eric, Yes i did order the two 45gallons from Richard at Brooksville. The beauties are on there way as we speak, they should be here on Monday. Once they arrive i'll post some pictures. I decided to get a couple of 1 gallons with Richard, that way they could stuff them around inside the 45 gallon pot and not have to worry about the additional shipping. "Stuffed" isn't a good word to be used in the same sentance with shipping palms :D .

Mark, I have to say that your collections of mules look great, wow between you and several other growers i think theres more mules than people in FL.

Posted

Hello Merrill,

I've only sold 3 gallons to fellow palm society members who drop by my place. I usually sell the 3gallon for $40.00.

I guess you could say i am a grower looking ahead to the future.

I agree w/ you regarding the Dactiliferas, the Mule palm is more attractive IMO as well!

I started the day i read your article!!!! Thanks again Merrill!!

Dick,

I agree w/ you regarding that there will be an abundance of Mules!!! I am not worried though, i have never had any intentions of over charging for them, and it looks like i would'nt be able to even if i wanted to!

The largest Mules that i have are at my home (first batch), and i planted them so it will be a forrest one day, i would love to see something like that in a park as well!!

JV,

Thank you, it's been alot of work, time, money invested!! It is gonna take a few more years before we see streets lined

w/ Mules,,,, but i hope i am still around to see it!!!

I will say that i love to visit the grove, it's very peacefull there,, a nice getaway!!

Mallet,

Thank you for letting me know that the Mule will live in Dallas!!! My sister lives in Plano and she would love one for her yard but feared it would'nt make it!! I have givin her a JXB, Sabal Palmetto, European Fan Palm, and of course the Butia.C. Looks like she's gonna get a big delivery soon!!!!!!! I'm sending one to the "Big D" and i don't mean divorse!!

Matt,

The grove is 5 acres, and i have 3.5 acres east of Orlando. The grove has 1500 Mules at the moment!! But apparently i am a small fry!!!! No worries here, I'm in it for the love of palms anyways and if i happen to make a buck or two when i retire,, then it's all good!!! :)

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

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