cfkingfish Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Weatherunderground now says the following for central Cape Coral (where I live): Wed. 7 a.m.: 36F 10 a.m.: 45F Thurs 7 a.m.: 34F 10 a.m.:50F Weather.com has these lows: Wed: 37F Thurs: 33F Awfully close to freezing. But we have tented and spotlit the L. grandis. What a mess. Enough already. Meg- As long as you have the L. grandis under canopy, you have nothing to worry about. I have seen them in yards that have hit 28 without any damage. Looks like the semi-peninsular effect may save me from freezing temps, coldest night in the 35-37 range. Christian Faulkner Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County. www.faulknerspalms.com Μολὼν λάβε Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon1988 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi All, I don't think it will be that bad like others say. I know its going to be chilly to cold depending on location. one thing I noticed is how people overestimates there palms on events like this and i did and it turns out the palms did fine a few cold spots on the leaf. In a nutshell its very frustrating and sleepless nites when we have cold/chilly weather like this we can't control it. If you take good care of your palms they will come out of stressful times like back in 08 we had cold dry winds and the temp fell to mid 30's and the palms had hardly any damage at all that time worrying about them proven to me they are tuff enough to handle this so relax and watch and pre-pare and believe in your palms My forecast is as of 16:10 NOAA 40/38/42 weather 40/39/45 accu 41/37/40 wunder 40/38/40 Matthew Albach Pinellas Park FLorida USDA zone 10a sunset zone 26 heat zone 10 mostly frost free most years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi All, I don't think it will be that bad like others say. I know its going to be chilly to cold depending on location. one thing I noticed is how people overestimates there palms on events like this and i did and it turns out the palms did fine a few cold spots on the leaf. In a nutshell its very frustrating and sleepless nites when we have cold/chilly weather like this we can't control it. If you take good care of your palms they will come out of stressful times like back in 08 we had cold dry winds and the temp fell to mid 30's and the palms had hardly any damage at all that time worrying about them proven to me they are tuff enough to handle this so relax and watch and pre-pare and believe in your palms My forecast is as of 16:10 NOAA 40/38/42 weather 40/39/45 accu 41/37/40 wunder 40/38/40 Matthew, Thats easy for you and Bren to say, with those forecasted temps you guys have compared too.....!just sayin! I wouldn't be to worried about this event at all, if I hadn't of had to put a 20 foot Foxylady,and and a 9 foot Kentiopsis oliviformis in the ground in late October.Was really hoping to make it through this winter with out a freeze,so they would have a whole year to get rooted in before next winter,alasthat isn't going to happen, so I'll hope for the best. Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbean Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'll post temperature graphics in the mornings Brevard County, Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikitiki Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Congrats, but hardly fair I just looked up my zip code 33704 in N.E. St. Pete Wed/Thur Fri Weather Underground 38/45/49 Weather.com 41/42/48 NWS 41/41/50 Accuweather 40/40/48 With a tin cup for a chalice Fill it up with good red wine, And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnorell Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Scott-- Don't worry about your Foxy Lady and Kentiopsis. I have a very small (8" tall) Foxy Lady in a slightly protected position against a SE wall, it has handled a number of freezes this year, one being to 24.1F and 14.5 hours below freezing (advective) last week, as well as a 27F advective and a few 28-31F radiational events. No damage in the least! Also the Kentiopsis, I have a three-leaf 1gal-size plant under light canopy, it is a bit less hardy, it endured the 9.5-hour 27F freeze and got only about 5% tip-burn. Because of that 27F tip-burn, I buried it in mulch to protect it during the 24F event as it was so small...but both of these will laugh at a 31F freeze, unless perhaps you have frost settling on the leaves. You have no frost forecast in Titusville, as this is an advective freeze, and only projected to be 31F for one hour and with a dewpoint of 23F. These palms are tough, chill-tolerant and freeze-tolerant plants, even as tiny specimens. Michael Norell Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 293 ft | z10a | avg Jan 44/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310 previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglegalfla Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Well, I didn't mean to be cocky because I am still hesitant. Most sites show a currant temp of 50 and it really is about 47 at the moment. We all know that one or two degree difference can make all the difference. Bren in South St. Pete Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 this s**ks. For Lealman, wunderground had 40 tonight, 38 tomorrow night (and we all know that can drop). NWS had the same. But we have a Freeze Watch, bleah. Husband is pulling all container plants in, as many as we can fit in here. We had a number of them out on the deck last night, and the wind blew a couple over on some palm seedlings. Btw, a couple of months ago, I got a semi-dead orchid for a buck at Lowe's just in case it could be salvaged. Yesterday, it surprised us with two pretty maroon flowers. Yeah, in mid-January. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Well, I didn't mean to be cocky because I am still hesitant. Most sites show a currant temp of 50 and it really is about 47 at the moment. We all know that one or two degree difference can make all the difference. Same thing here...47.3F at 815PM. Those lousy airport readings are always optimistic! NWS is predicting 38F for 34689 tonight, yet just for yucks I went back to weather.com and they are saying 30F for the same zipcode! I guess we shall see........ Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi All, I don't think it will be that bad like others say. I know its going to be chilly to cold depending on location. one thing I noticed is how people overestimates there palms on events like this and i did and it turns out the palms did fine a few cold spots on the leaf. In a nutshell its very frustrating and sleepless nites when we have cold/chilly weather like this we can't control it. If you take good care of your palms they will come out of stressful times like back in 08 we had cold dry winds and the temp fell to mid 30's and the palms had hardly any damage at all that time worrying about them proven to me they are tuff enough to handle this so relax and watch and pre-pare and believe in your palms My forecast is as of 16:10 NOAA 40/38/42 weather 40/39/45 accu 41/37/40 wunder 40/38/40 Everyone take a deep breath and repeat: I believe, I believe, I believe........... I feel better already (no joke) Christian, you have reassured me on my Licuala. Can you say the same about my mummified Areca concinna. Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Thought I'd see what is going on in the panic room tonight! 48.0F here at around 9:20 PM tonight. NWS has me forcast for 33F tonight and 31F tomorrow night with frost tomorrow night. yuck. If the wind stays this strong and from this same general direction (NW) all night tonight then I highly doubt it will hit 33 here tonight. That being said, tomorrow night is likely to be colder than forcast for me, I am expecting that I will hit 29F with frost tomorrow night if it gets as clear and still as they are predicting. I haven't covered anything this time around. Most everything is pretty much too big to cover now so we'll see what happens. Good luck everyone! And rememeber, worst case scenario is that we get to do a lot of planting this spring which actually could be fun since I might do things a little different the second time around. Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul The Palm Doctor! Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 The fridge door is open now and the cold air has been givenits opportunity to move way South! we'RE AT 56 already, (at9:55 EST) so 40-something seems probable. I just covered the breadfruits and I'm ready to "face" these next two lousy mornings! A'int it great?? "NO!!" Paul, The Palm Doctor @ http://www.thewisegardener.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbean Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This looks like it is going to hit the east coast harder than the west Brevard County, Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristóbal Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 i can hope you have some clouds come in tonight and tomorow night to keep the temperatures more higher. some times this can happen when they say the sky is to be clear. some high clouds even can help 1-3 degrees fahrenheit and this can be important. i feel bad for my friends in florida i hope no body loses plants and palms and the damages are little. good luck ! TEMP. JAN. 21/10 C (69/50 F), AUG. 29/20 C (84/68 F). DESERT BY OCEAN SUNNY DRY. RAIN: 220 MM (8.66 INCHS). BY OCEAN ZONE 11 NO FREEZES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Man about Palms Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Good luck out there...We all go thru it at one time or another.. Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time. "The great workman of nature is time." "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience." -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderSRQ Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 On-site reporter here (about 50 miles south of Tampa and 5 miles from the coast) -- 48 degrees at 12:45 AM (doesn't look too bad so far -- at least for tonight...keeping my fingers crossed ) Tim Sarasota, Florida USA (zone 9B) - 1 acre with approx. 91 types of palms & many other plants/trees My two favorite palms are Teddy Bears and Zombies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aricle Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This sucks. I was really hoping we'd make it this year without a freeze. I'm at 33F right now. Everything's too big to cover. The only encouragement I have is that my Royal experienced 27F last year with very minimal damage afterwards. Of course maybe my digital sensor just wasn't that accurate. It's not supposed to go below 30 here for both nights. Good luck, everyone. Manuel Montesino Cypress Gardens - Winter Haven, FL The Chain of Lakes City Avg. High: 84F; Avg. Low: 63F; Avg. Precip: 50 in. Elevation: 150 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 i can hope you have some clouds come in tonight and tomorow night to keep the temperatures more higher. some times this can happen when they say the sky is to be clear. some high clouds even can help 1-3 degrees fahrenheit and this can be important. i feel bad for my friends in florida i hope no body loses plants and palms and the damages are little. good luck ! BS Man said, Good luck out there...We all go thru it at one time or another.. Thank you both for the well wishes. This is a nail-biter. We didn't protect anything in the ground, and I hope we get through this without going below 35. Our Freeze Watch has been replaced with a Freeze Warning, both for Wed. AM and Thurs. AM. Yet NWS shows my area (Lealman) with a low of 38. On wx-underground there are no reporting stations close to us, so I have to use the nearest, which is Pinellas Park, usually a couple of degrees colder than us. It is currently reporting 41. Jimbean said, This looks like it is going to hit the east coast harder than the west Very true. Out of curiosity, I went to the NWS map and checked an area on the east coast which has a lattitude close to ours, "5 Miles S Palm Bay." We're at 27.84 N lat; they're at 27.9 N. Their low Wed. night is forecast to be 27 with frost, compared to our 38. That's quite a difference. Oh, and Melbourne Airport is currently reporting 32F. brrrr. I really hope this is the last bad scare we get this year. Time will tell. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Not so bad this AM..... Bbefore I went to bed, I rechecked the forecasts and NWS still said 38F, but weather.com dropped their forecast to 30F! So, I wasnt sure what to expect this AM. At ~6AM, my yard is hovering ~38F, so although things might drop a little bit more before sunrise, it looks like tonight wont freeze. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I don't want to talk about it. It has been below 32F since 3:30 AM, as of right now 30.3F ,which will bottom out just after sunrise lower than that! Major differential between east coast and west coast this morning, I wonder what the conditions are that it is close to 10 degrees warmer in the Tampa, St.Pete area? Seems even south of there on the west coast is cooler? And tomorrow morning is forecast even colder. Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) What a difference a mile or so makes......take a wild guess which reading is mine EDIT - Cant get the screen shot to show up. Edited January 21, 2009 by spockvr6 Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I wonder what the conditions are that it is close to 10 degrees warmer in the Tampa, St.Pete area? I dunno, but I recall seeing the same thing happen in reverse on some other nights. I think it has something to do with where the high happens to plunk itself down? Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Ack! Just went outside to see how it felt and I saw that my neighbor is running his sprinklers right along the side of my yard that is common with his. As such, the entire Croton hedge (~75 ft long) I have planted along that property line is getting drenched! Fortunately.....no icicles yet Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I wonder what the conditions are that it is close to 10 degrees warmer in the Tampa, St.Pete area? I dunno, but I recall seeing the same thing happen in reverse on some other nights. I think it has something to do with where the high happens to plunk itself down? Larry, That makes sense, I see you have cloud cover also which would trapping in the heat. Crystal clear over here,not a low cloud or high cloud to be seen,unfortunately! Just curious did the wind lay down over there,or did it stay up over night as predicted? The wind pretty much died over here. Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Scott Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) 34.5 at my place with a 5mph NE wind under some cloud cover. Not as bad here as I was fearing. Edited January 21, 2009 by Tampa Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Just curious did the wind lay down over there,or did it stay up over night as predicted? The wind pretty much died over here. Scott- The winds over here were supposed to stay brisk and from the NW all night. But, by ~2AM, they shifted to the NE, and then the temp started to drop at a pretty good clip (from ~45-46F at 1-2AM down to ~37F now at 7AM). The winds didnt completely die down in my yard, but they got fairly gentle (~1-4 mph), with a few stronger gusts here and there. I have a feeling tomorrow AM will be a bit more brutal than today, as the air is not forecast to warm up all that terribly much through the daylight hours. But, in any case, Im not worried as the worst case is I get to plant a few new things! This wietr surely is a test of Prichardia hardiness as this thing has really been put to the test this year with long spells of cold weather. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 West Palm Beach "cold hole" airport says 36F. Our office thermometer in PB down the street from the Beach says 41F at around 6:30AM. We got some clouds on the Stream but it is cold. I think tomorrow is Ice Station Zebra! What you look for is what is looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfeat Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 41F here in Pompano Beach at 7AM. The 25 degree difference from yesterday AM is the hardest thing to take. Best of luck to those folks farther north and inland, especially tomorrow AM. SoCal and SoFla; zone varies by location. 'Home is where the heart suitcase is'... _____ "If, as they say, there truly is no rest for the wicked, how can the Devil's workshop be filled with idle hands?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Floridave Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 South Merritt Island low temp right at sunrise: No frost, but water in my upside freezbie froze. Central Florida Gardening Forum 2ndlight.Com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 33.8F this morning...brrrrr!!! The wind went more northeasterly at some point last night and tanked my temps. Tonight promises to be the real test for the garden though. Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidl Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 It stayed 35+ degrees last night which was 3 degrees warmer than predicted but tonight will be even colder according to all I can find.They are predicting 27 tonight so I'm expecting to be close to freezing but its the frost that concerns me the most. Good luck to all David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 At ~6AM, my yard is hovering ~38F, so although things might drop a little bit more before sunrise, it looks like tonight wont freeze. The temps have dropped notably since 6AM.......at 740AM, its now down to 35.0F in my yard, with a few more tenths likely to go. It always seems as though the temps drop after sunrise.....anyone know why this is?!?!?!? Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubTropicRay Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 37F here thanks to clouds and wind off the Gulf. The wind, at least at the mid levels, stayed NW to NNW all night. Tonight, the other shoe drops with calm winds and no clouds. Just how hardy is Old Man Palm foliage? Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 The wind went more northeasterly at some point last night and tanked my temps. Same here Bill......once the winds shifted NE (~2AM), the temps dropped fast over here. If they stayed NW (as they were forecast), it would have been nice and toasty! Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 We got some clouds on the Stream but it is cold. Please send some of that stuff up here please I think we just may need it tonight! Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbrown_III Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I am out of town but looked at the FAWN netwrk for Pierson ( just a bit south of me ) 27.5 F a far cry fromn the 24 predictions ---I may still have blossums on my orchid tree whten I get home Best regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.dadluvsu.com Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Right before the sun rose my thermometer read 35F here in zip code 33462... I didn't make much preparation and am second guessing my decision now... I remember hearing discussions about two different kinds of cold blowing into Florida (convective or adjuctive or something of the like), which kind ws this, the bad one or the less than bad one? www.dadluvsu.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.dadluvsu.com Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'll post temperature graphics in the mornings C'mon Jimbean, lets see that Florida purple popsicle! www.dadluvsu.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozpalm Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 At my place in Wellington the low was hit at 6am - 37deg. Weatherundergound predicted 36deg based on my PWS data. What sucks is tonight they are predicting 33deg for my area and 29deg for Loxahatchee Groves. This is one time I would like them to be very wrong! Ron Wellington, Florida Zone 11 in my mind Zone 10a 9a in reality 13miles West of the Atlantic in Palm Beach County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Johnson Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 A few 10ths of a degree below 32 here this morning. There is a thin sheet of ice on a plastic table that I keep outside for potting, but no ice in bromeliad cups. Just a few hours slightly below freezing this morning is not too bad. Thursday morning is of greater concern as well as the duration of all this - will it be below freezing again on Friday morning? Brrrrrrrr . . . . Bob Johnson Orlando, Florida, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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