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Coconut palm in North Carolina?

Granca

By Granca
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kahili Experienced

kahili

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I guess I will answer this as I live here in NC, and the answer is no-they can't live here. Its way too cold for them here. Concerning the above info-they are mistakes, or someone is smoking something while they put together the above info. It is strange to see it in print though...

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Granca

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I guess I will answer this as I live here in NC, and the answer is no-they can't live here. Its way too cold for them here. Concerning the above info-they are mistakes, or someone is smoking something while they put together the above info. It is strange to see it in print though...

But they are 3 differents web, very strange! I believe about your words. Thank you to clear up it.

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Gran Canaria

27º45'N 15'35ºW

Zone 11

Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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Maybe some coconuts were carried by the Gulf Stream and washed ashore on an Outer Banks Island and sprouted in the summer. Then a federal plant surveyor saw them and included them in a report and the information has spread of there. I have heard coconuts wash ashore in Ireland or Britain and sprout if it is warm

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

kahili Experienced

kahili

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Eric-does that theory come under "hes smoking something" to not recognize that the Outer Banks are a far cry from the tropics.... :)

gsn Veteran

gsn

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I think an explaination for the 3 different sites might be that the GOOGLE web crawler picked it up from the gardenguides website?

As the bottom two are google asscociated! :winkie:

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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Eric-does that theory come under "hes smoking something" to not recognize that the Outer Banks are a far cry from the tropics.... :)

Well you know how ridiculously strict and rigid govt regulations can be

Maybe even if they saw a coconut husk on the beach it had to go into the report or worse yet, a nearby hotel had planted some as annuals for the summer and they saw those growing there.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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That first website indicates that Cocos nucifera survives temperatures down to 18F! :lol: Where in the world did they get that information. :blink:

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

Facebook Page

Las Palmas Design & Associates

Elegant Homes and Gardens

Bennz Experienced

Bennz

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Cocos nucifera was also put on a list of potentially invasive palms for New Zealand as well. Maybe the same person with a Cocos-grudge writes all these international reports?

Or, these people take Al Gore WAY too seriously.

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

Oceanic temperate

summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

TikiRick Veteran

TikiRick

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Right...and I grow Red Sealing Wax palms on my property in the western mountains of NC.

Rick Leitner

Fort Lauderdale, Florida

26.07N/80.15W

Zone 10B

Average Annual Low 67 F

Average Annual High 84 F

Average Annual Rainfall 62"

 

Riverfront exposure, 1 mile from Atlantic Ocean

Part time in the western mountains of North Carolina

Gratefully, the best of both worlds!

buffy Mentor

buffy

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"Plant Distribution: Coconut Palm can be found in Florida (FL), Hawaii (HI), North Carolina (NC) ,Puerto Rico (PR) and Virgin Islands of the U.S. (VI)"

With just a little protection and an amazing microclimate my coconuts have done pretty well in the ground here in Northeast Texas over the past 7 winters. I don't see any problem. I have about a foot of woody trunk.

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

buffy Mentor

buffy

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"Plant Distribution: Coconut Palm can be found in Florida (FL), Hawaii (HI), North Carolina (NC) ,Puerto Rico (PR) and Virgin Islands of the U.S. (VI)"

With just a little protection and an amazing microclimate my coconuts have done pretty well in the ground here in Northeast Texas over the past 7 winters. I don't see any problem. I have about a foot of woody trunk.

I did mention that the amazing microclimate happened to be my imagination. No?

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

Big Tex Community Regular

Big Tex

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"Plant Distribution: Coconut Palm can be found in Florida (FL), Hawaii (HI), North Carolina (NC) ,Puerto Rico (PR) and Virgin Islands of the U.S. (VI)"

With just a little protection and an amazing microclimate my coconuts have done pretty well in the ground here in Northeast Texas over the past 7 winters. I don't see any problem. I have about a foot of woody trunk.

I did mention that the amazing microclimate happened to be my imagination. No?

You almost had me going there! :lol:

Use to live in Longview and still have some friends there.

Houston, Texas

29.8649°N - 95.6521°W

Elevation 114.8 ft

Sunset zone 28

USDA zone 9a

Average maximum high temperature 93.60 F

Average maximum low temperature 45.20 F

The annual average precipitation is 53.34 Inches

Dave-Vero Grand Master

Dave-Vero

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Here's the scoop from

Flora of the Carolinas, Virginia, and Georgia,

and Surrounding Areas

by Alan S. Weakley

Cocos Linnaeus (Coconut Palm)

A monotypic genus, the single species now pantropical. References: Zona in FNA (2000).

* Cocos nucifera Linnaeus, Coconut Palm. Rarely reaches our shores as propagules (coconuts), but is not established; native

region unknown, but probably tropical islands of the western Pacific (now pantropical). Photographic evidence has been

supplied from Bear Island, Onslow County, NC, 11 June 1996 (Dave Owen, pers. comm. and photograph). [= FNA, K, S]

http://www.herbarium.unc.edu/flora.htm

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

tjwalters Veteran

tjwalters

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Maybe someone saw some larger coconut palms planted as annuals at some shopping center, restaurant, or beach resort in NC. Mango Mike's restaurant in Alexandria, VA had some planted out this summer (fried now), and plants them out every year, I think. If someone were to replant them each year, and they were seen by someone who only visited during the summer, that person might mistake them for the same palms. I can't explain surviving 18°F, though, unless maybe that same person looked up the minimum temperature for the area in which the palms were seen and assumed survival. :hmm:

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
hardiestpalms.com

Dave-Vero Grand Master

Dave-Vero

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I've seen sprouted coconuts for sale at the Borough Market, Southwark, London. Short-term house plants.

Vero Beach is marginal for coconuts. No telling when we'll have a fatal freeze. In the meantime, lots of them around town are getting nice and tall.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

Davidl Mentor

Davidl

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Coconuts in the Carolina ? not even if Al Gore says it do I believe it. Coconuts are very sensitive to the cold and mine get yellow if we have to many nights in the 60s. Go Gators

David

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