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Heterospathe glauca

LJG

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LJG Grand Master

LJG

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OK, so I know many people in SoCal bought Heterospathe glauca from Jeff (or growers that grew them up from him) hoping they would do well here. I am not sure many have tried this in the ground for fear of death. The plant is beachin so it would be a killer plant if it grows here.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/145477/

Any who, I was at my buddy ______'s house and I looked and in the ground was Heterospathe glauca that has made it through one winter and started its second. It looked great and was still small. He also had some in pots he grew from 4" seedlings. He told me these have survived under his shade cloth, unprotected from the last two crappy winters here. I thought this was good news and figured I would share. Sorry, no pictures, too busy trying to beat him down on a Ceratozamia whitelockiana I found!

Oh yeah, _____ lives in Vista and has a good microclimate.

Happy growdins,

Len

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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I'm glad to hear that _______'s palm is doing so well, I'll have to stop by and see it. I know its on my way to Escondido. :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

ellidro Mentor

ellidro

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Len,

Jesse at JM talked me into one of these about two years ago and I'm glad he did. I later picked up a few more from Jeff Marcus and all have grown great. The one I got from Jungle music has made it through one winter and actually grew through the cold. Its getting planted in the spring. Here is an old pic (I'll try to get a more current one) showing the nice bronze new leaf.

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Encinitas on a hill 1.5 miles from the ocean.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Nick, from what I saw of your area, it should do well. I was stoked to see someone have it in the ground and actually have it look good because this is a nice looking plant as you know.

Rusty actually told me to buy it.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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I'm going to keep an eye out for one of those. :)

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Bags Mentor

Bags

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I purchased a good sized five gallon one a few months ago. It has been outside on the coast for at least one winter and possibly more. It looks absolutely perfect. The leaves are all a dark green with out a spot on them. Seems to be a great palm for SoCal. Aaron

Encinitas, CA

Zone 10b

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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I got mine from Jeff marcus and it was so big I put it right into a citrus tall container. It made it through last winter in my shade house without a spot and is about 3 ft. tall now! I am going to plant it this next spring. I also planted Heterospathe Intermedia this year in Hawaii and it opens a beautifull burgandy leaf. Not sure if it will grow here though.

Stevo

Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Here are a few pics of mine taken today.

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Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Another

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Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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A closeup showing the white Glaucescens :drool: .

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Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Roots coming out of the bottom of the container. Shes going in the ground this spring.

Stevo

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Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

cfkingfish Grand Master

cfkingfish

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I have to admit, H. glauca is straight OG material. :mellow:

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

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Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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I have to admit, H. glauca is straight OG material. :mellow:

True dat brutha B)

Stevo

Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Nice one man. She be bigger then mine!

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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looks great steve! going in the ground next spring?

len dont tell me bs has you saying "any who" too... :rage::lol:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Why do I feel 10 IQ points lower when I read your post??

Just kidding. It is more like 4.

looks great steve! going in the ground next spring?

len dont tell me bs has you saying "any who" too... :rage::lol:

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Thanks Len and Paul, Yeah it's headed for terra firma this spring and I'm not even worried about it making it through winter :) . This species seems pretty cold hardy. What other Heterospathes do you think will make it in So Cal?

Stevo

Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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looks great steve! going in the ground next spring?

len dont tell me bs has you saying "any who" too... :rage::lol:

Anywho, any who, Any, who?, Anywho, Horton?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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Why do I feel 10 IQ points lower when I read your post??

Just kidding. It is more like 4.

looks great steve! going in the ground next spring?

len dont tell me bs has you saying "any who" too... :rage::lol:

oh,you can read now?

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Yes, even run on sentences and no use of capitalizations.

Why do I feel 10 IQ points lower when I read your post??

Just kidding. It is more like 4.

looks great steve! going in the ground next spring?

len dont tell me bs has you saying "any who" too... :rage::lol:

oh,you can read now?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

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I read once that one's IQ deminishes 2% a year for anyone who lives in California. Of course that statement was made by a New Yorker.

Dick

Richard Douglas

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Has anyone noticed that every H. glauca seedling is wobbly?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Bags Mentor

Bags

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I thought I just had a weak one. Mine is very wobbly and I have it staked in the pot. I am also thinking they might be able to take a little sun. Mine is on the east side of my house and is getting several hours of morning sun (just fall and winter sun so far) with no signs of any burn. Aaron

Encinitas, CA

Zone 10b

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Every one at all the nurseries, and at peoples houses I've seen are wobbly. I've staked mine too.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

ellidro Mentor

ellidro

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Every one at all the nurseries, and at peoples houses I've seen are wobbly. I've staked mine too.

I bought a nice 5g from Jungle Music and it was wobbly and has stayed that way for two years even though it has grown a ton and fattened up. I bought a huge one gallon from Jeff Marcus bare rooted and it took a little while to root in but now its solid as a rock. Weird!

Nick

Encinitas on a hill 1.5 miles from the ocean.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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They probably came down with "Chambeyronia houaliou" syndrome, they're all wobbly for years too.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Every one at all the nurseries, and at peoples houses I've seen are wobbly. I've staked mine too.

I bought a nice 5g from Jungle Music and it was wobbly and has stayed that way for two years even though it has grown a ton and fattened up. I bought a huge one gallon from Jeff Marcus bare rooted and it took a little while to root in but now its solid as a rock. Weird!

Nick

Nick, Mine I got from Jeff is not wobbly either. I suspect they may want a deeper pot as evidenced by the roots coming out of the bottom of my citrus tall which has the depth of a 15 gal.

Stevo

Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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OK, so I know many people in SoCal bought Heterospathe glauca from Jeff (or growers that grew them up from him) hoping they would do well here. I am not sure many have tried this in the ground for fear of death. The plant is beachin so it would be a killer plant if it grows here.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/145477/

Any who, I was at my buddy ______'s house and I looked and in the ground was Heterospathe glauca that has made it through one winter and started its second. It looked great and was still small. He also had some in pots he grew from 4" seedlings. He told me these have survived under his shade cloth, unprotected from the last two crappy winters here. I thought this was good news and figured I would share. Sorry, no pictures, too busy trying to beat him down on a Ceratozamia whitelockiana I found!

Oh yeah, _____ lives in Vista and has a good microclimate.

Happy growdins,

Len

Len,

Well, once again you Cali guys are forcing me to plant another palm specie in the ground here that I didn't intend on doing for awhile. I can't let you guys up us one, so I will be sure to get planting this weekend. :) You guys will try and grow anything outhere just to try to keep us with us here. :lol:

Jeff

PS.....how's your little Dypsis sp. with the black spots on the white petiole doing?

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Jeff, no one ever twist you arm. :winkie:

That Dypsis is sweet. Slow growing but unique. I wonder if it will lose the black mealy bug markings as it gets older? I guess we will find out.

Len,

Well, once again you Cali guys are forcing me to plant another palm specie in the ground here that I didn't intend on doing for awhile. I can't let you guys up us one, so I will be sure to get planting this weekend. :) You guys will try and grow anything outhere just to try to keep us with us here. :lol:

Jeff

PS.....how's your little Dypsis sp. with the black spots on the white petiole doing?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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I thought I would bump this, as I have three to plant out today or tomorrow.

Anybody have an update with some good news on this one?

This is the reason we like this one.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Mine made it through the winter in the ground last year. They seem to like heat to grow however becuase it grew slow during this cool summer. It is pretty fast in the greenhouse.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Seems like a great plant for SoCal so far. Mine made it through Winter last year no problem either. No spotting at all, perfect leaves. Matt in SD even has his in sun and it's accimated very well.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Surf Guy Experienced

Surf Guy

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Here are a few pics of mine taken today.

Dude, you have a green thumb .

Mike Hegger

Northwest Clairemont

San Diego, California

4 miles from coast

Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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I remember Jeff M. telling me there was some uncertainty about the true ID of this palm. After reading Riffle/Craft's Encyclopedia, I can see why. H. glauca is described as not having a true crownshaft. Looking at the pics I posted above, I am not sure how you could say that palm doesn't have a true crownshaft.

Apparently Dypsis don't have the market cornered on mysteries.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Dean, I think this plant is being renamed. Maybe to Hydriastele? I can not remember.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Dr. George Mentor

Dr. George

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As a point of reference, this palm at Floribunda is identified by Jeff as Heterospathe glauca.

gmp

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LJG Grand Master

LJG

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As a point of reference, this palm at Floribunda is identified by Jeff as Heterospathe glauca.

gmp

Next time you are at Jeff's, ask him if it is being renamed. I am pretty sure it is since it can't be a Heterospathe due to the crownshaft. Well, unless you change the description of Heterospathe to include fully crownshafted palms too.

.... and I could be wrong.... :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Urban Rainforest Grand Master

Urban Rainforest

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Mine has been in the ground for 3 years and is looking great! It even laughs at winter :D .

Stevo

Urban Rainforest Palms,Cycads and Exotics. Were in San Diego Ca. about 5 miles from the beach on Tecolote canyon. It seems to be an ideal growing climate with moderate temps. and very little frost. Vacation Rental in Leilani Estates, big island Hi PM me if interested in staying there.

Peter Grand Master

Peter

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Any photos Steve?

San Fernando Valley, California

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