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The Tree of Lust and Desire is DEAD!

DoomsDave

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Howdyall:

Well, it finally happened, that moment I've gabbed incoherently about for a while . . . .

My erstwhile giant Cedrus deodar was REMOVED this weekend, by, our fave, Palmazon.

A glimpse into the crown soon-not-to be.

About 10:00 a.m., Sunday, December 7, 2008.

(In your best Rod Serling voice . . . .)

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Why Dave? I'm growing a small one at my place.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

DoomsDave Grand Master

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THe Ladder of Doom

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Palmazon parades cockily around . . . .

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The hacking continues . . .

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And continues . . .

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Off with the top . . .

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The final round . . .

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The final cut . . .

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Wow. You trust that guy with a chainsaw?

Palmazon parades cockily around . . . .

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Why Dave? I'm growing a small one at my place.

The deal was, all along to remove it, and I allowed myself to get distracted.

The caryota urens will take its place against the sky.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Wow. You trust that guy with a chainsaw?

Palmazon parades cockily around . . . .

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Dan's no problem!

Me, on the other hand . . . . .

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The final round . . .

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I see some "palm pain" in this photo... :(

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Mo' n' yew know, bro . . .

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Dave, nice work. same to palmazon.

I brought out the chainsaw this weekend also.

Took down huge limb on my pecan tree. also removed a large overgrown (made my palms look like small seedlings) Brown turkey fig. 4-5 months out of the year it would bare all (leafless), was really killing my lush tropical look.

more rooms for palms (and fish pond)

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Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Dave, nice work. same to palmazon.

I brought out the chainsaw this weekend also.

Took down huge limb on my pecan tree. also removed a large overgrown (made my palms look like small seedlings) Brown turkey fig. 4-5 months out of the year it would bare all (leafless), was really killing my lush tropical look.

more rooms for palms (and fish pond)

Pecan wood burn good . . .

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Dave,

I would have done the same. Were any palms damaged as I've heard horror stories of branches falling down and taking out precious palms. Now the tree is gone how about a pic of the whole yard, it should look great.

Don

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Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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Dave, nice work. same to palmazon.

I brought out the chainsaw this weekend also.

Took down huge limb on my pecan tree. also removed a large overgrown (made my palms look like small seedlings) Brown turkey fig. 4-5 months out of the year it would bare all (leafless), was really killing my lush tropical look.

more rooms for palms (and fish pond)

Pecan wood burn good . . .

Soak the wood chips and use them on the grill. Much mellower than hickory or mesquite, but quite good.

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Len - that's a diet Pepsi

Bill - we did what we could to dodge the palms. Dave put it thus: trees fall in jungles all the time, hurricanes mangle fronds - palms somehow manage to survive it all.

We could've lowered each limb with block and tackle, but it would've taken considerably longer. Dave removed the lowermost skirt of the largest limbs prior to my visit; had we left them, they may have served to shield some of the palms.

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I get by with a little help from my fronds

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Dave removed the lowermost skirt of the largest limbs prior to my visit; had we left them, they may have served to shield some of the palms.

That's what you say.

Except they wouldn't have shielded anyting. Most were half-cut by the time I got to them anyway.

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au contraire, Mary (as in Mary quite contrary):blink:

one more word outta you and you're next in line for the buzzsaw treatment... :bemused:

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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au contraire, Mary (as in Mary quite contrary):blink:

one more word outta you and you're next in line for the buzzsaw treatment... :bemused:

Palmazon wood, burn good . . . .. :)

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How did that guy not get crushed up in the tree when the top came off. You guys are crazy! I've gotta cut down my huge tangled mess of a Grevelia robusta some day soon.

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Matt Bradford

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

DoomsDave Grand Master

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How did that guy not get crushed up in the tree when the top came off. You guys are crazy! I've gotta cut down my huge tangled mess of a Grevelia robusta some day soon.

I hope you're kidding . . . .

Palmazon came down from the tree after he notched it.

Then he helped us pull the rope.

As for your Grevillea, the sooner the better.

It won't get any smaller, unless a wind rips it down, in which case it will cause damage, especially those large branches.

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Yeah, I had a Rhopie and a D. pink crownshaft planted under it but both died from a gopher so I figure I might as well get it down now while the choppin' is good.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Yeah, I had a Rhopie and a D. pink crownshaft planted under it but both died from a gopher so I figure I might as well get it down now while the choppin' is good.

Now's teh time.

Just remember that things do tend to fall straight down, which I have forgotten (very briefly!) once or twice . . . . .

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Some of the palms were damaged, unfortunately.

However, I am the founding Dean of Dave's School of Dysfunctional Pruning Technique (a double major in drive-by photography also offered!) and I have damaged palms before, some rather severely, including Chambeyroneas.

As long as the actual growth bud isn't trashed, it'll be okay, though it will look sad for a while.

Kings and relations make a rapid comeback.

Look in the PSSC Journal -- or a palm journal near you for the article when it comes . . . . .

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Dave, I heard they are doing a remake of Texas Chainsaw Mass in Frog City. They are looking for a hatchet man. Thought you may be interested?

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What you look for is what is looking

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Dave, I heard they are doing a remake of Texas Chainsaw Mass in Frog City. They are looking for a hatchet man. Thought you may be interested?

FROG CITY!

THAT NAME FAIRLY SCREAMS FOR A SNARK ATTACK!

Ahem!

Ahmmm.

Any paying gig'll work for me. If they want to hide my ugly mug, fine with me.

Hey, if they're really desperate, they can get Palmazon . . . .

dave

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Doink, for hte hell of it . .

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The work you two did will pay numerous "dividends" in future use of the land, on the cedar's former footprint! Go show, Dave! Pip pip and Talley ho!

Paul The Dr.

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aussiearoids Grand Master

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come on Dave , I was expecting a report on how well the Caryota was coming along to replace the fallen tree . B)

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Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Paul The Palm Doctor! Experienced

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The work you two did will pay numerous "dividends" in future use of the land, on the cedar's former footprint! Go show, Dave! Pip pip and Talley ho!

Paul The Dr.

You're right, Michael, we didn't get that information, did we? Hmmm?

Paul

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Hmm.

Well, that's a good point about the C. deodar's footprint . . .

Except I have to concede that this wasn't about the footprint, but about my own selfish desire to have more room to plant palms.

So, hate me.

How do you rate me.?

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Paul The Palm Doctor! Experienced

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I would say...a seven. (The footprint had a good beat.)

Dr. Paul

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mmmm I'll give you an 8 Dave , you are always good value ^_^

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Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Damn, you are all so . . .

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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I doinked this post to show that you can remove a dicot tree even after you've waited way too long after planting palms beneath it.

Just dismember it, a bit at a time.

All the palms that were damaged have recovered.

 

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On 9/12/2008, 3:10:17, LJG said:

Wow. You trust that guy with a chainsaw?

 

 

Can you lend me this guy for a pair of pine trees in and next to my garden? I pay airtickets! 

PS 

Also a chainsaw is available for the job...

... and beers of course or rather a Moet for celebration ...

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

Can you lend me this guy for a pair of pine trees in and next to my garden? I pay airtickets! 

PS 

Also a chainsaw is available for the job...

Hmm. He might actually go!

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