Phoenix Palm tree growth

[Rod]

Here are a couple of fotos of some palm trees grown in Arizona with ample water (flouded) and a conscientious fertilizer program. The two palms are Livistona mariae planted in May of 2004. and Hyphaene dichotoma planted in Oct or 2006. there are two Hyphaene dichotomas and we found out this year that one was a male and the other a female.

These are clients of mine and they bought these plants from me and they used the fertilizer program that I have developed also helped by an irrigation program that floods their yard every two weeks in the summer.

Rod Anderson

Phoenix

[Miccles]

Hi Rod - great looking palms ! Just wondering, what size were they when you planted them out ???

Thanks

Michael

[SubTropicRay]

Hi Rod,

Those palms are looking great. Hyphaene is a great palm.

Ray

[_Keith]

Well, someone is doing something right. Those are great looking palms. Congrats.

[freakypalmguy]

I'm a little slow, I was looking for a Livistona, a Hyphaene, and a Phoenix per the title Very nice plants Rod.

How old is the Hyphaene, what is the coldest temps it has seen, and did it show any damage from the cold?

Matt

[paulgila]

me too!

looking good,rod!

[Gaston in Argentina]

Hello Rod

Livistona mariae probed to be an excelent palm for our climate also, if well never so warm as up there in Arizona but a good growing.- Here just would need more hot and a bit less minima temperature for be a perfect palm for Cordoba since our lower temps. burn the leaves tips but quickly recover when warm up in spring.----

Saludos

Gaston TV

[Rod]

  Miccles said:

Hi Rod - great looking palms ! Just wondering, what size were they when you planted them out ???

Thanks

Michael

Michael:

Both palms were planted from 1 gallon pots.

Rod

[Rod]

  freakypalmguy said:

I'm a little slow, I was looking for a Livistona, a Hyphaene, and a Phoenix per the title Very nice plants Rod.

How old is the Hyphaene, what is the coldest temps it has seen, and did it show any damage from the cold?

Matt

Matt:

Januray of 2007 I had lows of 23° for two nights in a row. Where these palms are located (on the fringe of the Phoenix metropolitan area), they probably had lows of atleast 21° if not 19°. The hyphaene's looked a little tough; but, as you can see - they have come back. The hyphaene has even produced seeds. It was just luck that they have one female and one male. The hyphaene thebaica's that I have in my yard were the least damaged.

Rod

[FRITO]

very nice palms!

so the Hyphaene dichotoma was a 1 gallon only 2 years ago?? got an before photos?

[Rod]

  FRITO said:

very nice palms!

so the Hyphaene dichotoma was a 1 gallon only 2 years ago?? got an before photos?

Luke:

That is why I am so impressed with their growth! Their palms will surpass the same plants in my yard that are about 10 years old in another year. Because I gave their daughter piano lessons, I was in their home every week during that time (they finally gave in to buying some palms because I'm always talking about them!).

The combination of fertilization, unlimited water, and our extreme heat all have combined to produce such growth. If I had more resources, I would water my plants more. The way it is now, I already spend a small fortune each month during the summer to water and fertilize what I have.

Rod

[sonoranfans]

  Rod said:

  FRITO said:

very nice palms!

so the Hyphaene dichotoma was a 1 gallon only 2 years ago?? got an before photos?

Luke:

That is why I am so impressed with their growth! Their palms will surpass the same plants in my yard that are about 10 years old in another year. Because I gave their daughter piano lessons, I was in their home every week during that time (they finally gave in to buying some palms because I'm always talking about them!).

The combination of fertilization, unlimited water, and our extreme heat all have combined to produce such growth. If I had more resources, I would water my plants more. The way it is now, I already spend a small fortune each month during the summer to water and fertilize what I have.

Rod

Those palms look great Rod, some fantastic growth. I noticed that they are in very unprotected sun positions, they get lots of sun. Any palm that likes the heat/sun here and is a fast grower could exhibit incredible growth. I have also had some pretty fast growth on a number of "slow growers", but not in such sunny locations. I have never lived anywhere where things grow so fast, IF they can take the heat/sun. I have a desert museum paolo verde tree that went from 5' by 5'wide to almost 20' tall by 20' wide in 15 months. These palms must be very tolerant of our high pH clay soils and dont mind being almost continually wet. If I may ask, where did you buy them?

[Rod]

  sonoranfans said:

  Rod said:

  FRITO said:

very nice palms!

so the Hyphaene dichotoma was a 1 gallon only 2 years ago?? got an before photos?

Luke:

That is why I am so impressed with their growth! Their palms will surpass the same plants in my yard that are about 10 years old in another year. Because I gave their daughter piano lessons, I was in their home every week during that time (they finally gave in to buying some palms because I'm always talking about them!).

The combination of fertilization, unlimited water, and our extreme heat all have combined to produce such growth. If I had more resources, I would water my plants more. The way it is now, I already spend a small fortune each month during the summer to water and fertilize what I have.

Rod

Those palms look great Rod, some fantastic growth. I noticed that they are in very unprotected sun positions, they get lots of sun. Any palm that likes the heat/sun here and is a fast grower could exhibit incredible growth. I have also had some pretty fast growth on a number of "slow growers", but not in such sunny locations. I have never lived anywhere where things grow so fast, IF they can take the heat/sun. I have a desert museum paolo verde tree that went from 5' by 5'wide to almost 20' tall by 20' wide in 15 months. These palms must be very tolerant of our high pH clay soils and dont mind being almost continually wet. If I may ask, where did you buy them?

Tom:

I grow almost everything from seed. You need to come by my house sometime!

Rod

[FRITO]

Rod, please dont hesitate to post more photos of your stuff. also do you have a before photo by chance of the above photos?

[Rod]

  FRITO said:

Rod, please dont hesitate to post more photos of your stuff. also do you have a before photo by chance of the above photos?

Sorry, I didn't take any before pictures.

Rod

[sonoranfans]

  Rod said:

  sonoranfans said:

  Rod said:

  FRITO said:

very nice palms!

so the Hyphaene dichotoma was a 1 gallon only 2 years ago?? got an before photos?

Luke:

That is why I am so impressed with their growth! Their palms will surpass the same plants in my yard that are about 10 years old in another year. Because I gave their daughter piano lessons, I was in their home every week during that time (they finally gave in to buying some palms because I'm always talking about them!).

The combination of fertilization, unlimited water, and our extreme heat all have combined to produce such growth. If I had more resources, I would water my plants more. The way it is now, I already spend a small fortune each month during the summer to water and fertilize what I have.

Rod

Those palms look great Rod, some fantastic growth. I noticed that they are in very unprotected sun positions, they get lots of sun. Any palm that likes the heat/sun here and is a fast grower could exhibit incredible growth. I have also had some pretty fast growth on a number of "slow growers", but not in such sunny locations. I have never lived anywhere where things grow so fast, IF they can take the heat/sun. I have a desert museum paolo verde tree that went from 5' by 5'wide to almost 20' tall by 20' wide in 15 months. These palms must be very tolerant of our high pH clay soils and dont mind being almost continually wet. If I may ask, where did you buy them?

Tom:

I grow almost everything from seed. You need to come by my house sometime!

Rod

That would be great Rod, I would love to see what you have done! I believe we have communicated before a few years(1-2) back, you gave me a list of non common palm species that can be grown here, including several in the livistona genus. I am fairly new to palms, 4 1/2 years, and have been mail ordering seedlings off and on, for 18 months. It would be nice to hear from someone with alot of experience growing a variety of species here in the sonoran desert. I do have 2 of the livistonas(chinesis, decipiens) you suggested now in the ground in part shade doing well. Some of the others have been difficult to find. If there is a good time for a visit on a weekend(I dont see much daylight during the week lately), send me a PM.

[chris78]

Nice results Rod..... What brand of fertilizer you use and at what rate? I water every two weeks with flood irrigation..

Great looking plants... I am at the edge of Phoenix area and had two nights at 18F in 2007 freeze.....

Edited October 15, 2008 by chris78

[Rod]

  chris78 said:

Nice results Rod..... What brand of fertilizer you use and at what rate? I water every two weeks with flood irrigation..

Great looking plants... I am at the edge of Phoenix area and had two nights at 18F in 2007 freeze.....

Chris:

It's my own mixture. A little git of this and a little bit of that.

Rod

[Rod]

  chris78 said:

Nice results Rod..... What brand of fertilizer you use and at what rate? I water every two weeks with flood irrigation..

Great looking plants... I am at the edge of Phoenix area and had two nights at 18F in 2007 freeze.....

Chris:

What kind of growth rates do you get with your palms?

Rod

[chris78]

Hi Ron

I fertilizer not to often becauce I have a habit to do it too heavy and burn, when I do fertilize I use lawn food which may have too high in nitrogen... I want the most growth without burning or seting them back from over doing it... esp my more slowing growing palms....

[Rod]

  chris78 said:

Hi Ron

I fertilizer not to often becauce I have a habit to do it too heavy and burn, when I do fertilize I use lawn food which may have too high in nitrogen... I want the most growth without burning or seting them back from over doing it... esp my more slowing growing palms....

I tend to lean to water soluable fertilizers. I have an "injector" that then mixes the fertilizer into my water lines. Tom Blank is visiting me this coming weekend - why don't you come by also?

Rod

[chris78]

Hi Ron

sure that sound great, just let me know when... you can send an private message with the details..

thanks

[Russicles9933]

Hi Rod I recently moved to az and started landscaping. I planted some enceph and Bismarckia but I would like to visit and pick your brain. Any chance you could email me or text me? Thanks tons