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Flood tolerant palms

Central Floridave

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foxtail and mango with their feet flooded. tropical storm fay sat on top of the Space Coast (currently) and dumped record amount of rain. My yard has never flooded and this is the first time. Its still raining and looks to rain another day.

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there are cuban petticoat, red latania, buccaneer, foxtails, sabal (native), D.ambositrae, triangle, king, livistona, redneck, veitchia all in this photo. All small so you can't pick them out, but they are sitting in water.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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YIKES!

Hmm.

I wish some of that would come our way.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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my bigger bismark sitting high and dry. At least the root crown is! My yard has never flooded in the 13 years I have lived here. Tropical Storm Fay just sat on top of us and rained constantly. I have many palms that are leaning. The winds didn't get that strong, only around 50 mph at the strongest. But tons of rain.

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_Keith Grand Master

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On the way home today, I heard a news report of one Florida town reporting 22" of rain in the last 24 hours. Something else was said about flooding in Port St. Lucie. (I think that is how it is spelled)

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Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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They'll probably love the drink. Amazing pics. If it drains away soon I can't see any problem with it. I wish it rained like that here in summer.

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Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

redant Grand Master

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Good luck, mangos hate wet feet, many palms are tolerant for short periods of time so here's hoping you drain quickly.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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Man...those are incrdible pictures. Hopefully no water in the house itself. It looks close in the first shot. Assuming the water recedes quickly and the sun comes out to dry it up, I don't imagine that you will have much problem except the mango and, of course, the citrus. Good luck.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

SubTropicRay Grand Master

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Dave,

I think you'll be OK. Please keep us posted on your progress. Hopefully, the house is high and dry.

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

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Central Floridave

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Thanks. the house is high and dry. Whoever made the building ordinance to raise the house 18 inches was a genious!

The water has receded somewhat, but still flooded. Still raining as well, but the majority of the heavy rain is to the North of me.

Like I said, I have never seen a flood here. Not even a puddle would develop as the water table is ten feet down. The rain came down

so hard and fast that it didn't have anywhere to go. Some areas in Melbourne (Fla) are reporting 30 inches of rain. (sorry not in metric units). I must have seen at leat 25 inches. I don't know, it is interesting though. They cancelled schools and work the past three days. I'm a little stir crazy with the kids and sitting around. I'll report back if I see any damage. I hope not and I also hope the water drains quickly today as the rain slows down.

Today, I have to right some palms that have a lean-to. And, pull back the soggy mulch around the mango. Here's hoping for a sunny and dry day the next week!

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Tyrone Grand Master

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I reckon everything will launch with that sort of rain. In the true tropics, it's not unusual to get that amount of rain in one hit.

I didn't know mangoes didn't like wet feet. I can imagine if the water sat around for a week there might be problems, but a couple of days, probably not. Let us know how things go.

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Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

ariscott Grand Master

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Most fruit tree don't like wet feet, except probably bread fruit. 25inches (635mm) is a lot in 24 hours (maybe not for those in Tully). No wonder everything is flooded. Even Darwin with huge drain might be flooded to with that kind of rainfall.

Cyclone Ingrid only dump around 200mm in 24 hours in Gove (I was there... :bemused:) . Cyclone Larry dumped around 500mm around Tully in 72 hours, but they do get 139 mm in 3 hours around Babinda. The beauty of tropical cyclone... :rolleyes:

Good luck.

Regards, Ari :)

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Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

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aussiearoids Grand Master

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Heard of 52" in 24 hrs, back a few years ago in Whyanbeel .... now thats heavy rain ,,, washed away bridges and roads .

Lucky the wind was not to strong for you guys in Flo. It plays havoc with soggy ground and tall palms ..

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

MattyB Grand Master

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As long as the palms haven't been beat up by water rushing by I don't see that it would be a problem for a few days. Sometimes we get hit by storm after storm for weeks on end here in SoCal where the clay dirt can be just soaking wet and puddled up, all while the temperatures are very cold. Most palms make it just fine. It's the cold and wet that you have to worry about. Good luck.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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I suspect you'll be fine, but what fascinating pictures!!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

FRITO Grand Master

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nice photos!

Just passed the local public sand bag area. place has around 40 cars parked on the side of the street and people are filling sand bags in preperation for tommorrow. we are expected to get 5- 15" of rain and with the sloping hill here you can get some runoff and erosion. ever 1" rain washes gullies in my back yard.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

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Davidl Mentor

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Dave we had 17 inches and the water has went down allot in a few days. We were getting a little dry before the storm hit so that helped I think. Your palms should be ok if it does not last long.

David

_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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Hang in there Dave. Are you still getting rains? Is water receding?

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Wow, thats alot of rain, and a great set of pics... I hope everything turns out ok.

I suspect you'll have good stories in a few years about your palms once they dry out and get older...

Allen

Galveston Island Tx

9a/9b

8' Elevation

Sandy Soil

Jan Avgs 50/62

Jul Avgs 80/89

Average Annual Rainfall 43.5"

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Whats the status here?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Central Floridave

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Thanks for asking! The water finally has receded. We are back to the afternoon thunderstorms. T.S. Fay is over the panhandle.

There was a total of two days that half of my yard was under water. It looks like I have a couple palms I will lose that were knocked over in the soggy soil. One was a A.Cunningham. and the other a weedy queen. I don't see any short term damage on anything else. For fruit trees, just a longan and avocado show new growth that is burnt back. A dragon fruit that was on a palm tree shrivelled up and looks to die. A desert rose (ornamental) also shed some leaves. Everything else initially looks okay.

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FRITO Grand Master

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thats good news.

Currently here in Tallahassee we are get the feeder bands commin in off the Gulf with infinite amounts of moisture.

We are around 7.5" right now and the strongest bands have yet to hit.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

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Central Floridave

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easement dried up today as well. However, the ground is still mucky. There is a muddy swampy stench in the air as well. I imagine a lot of evaporation is taking place. Temps soared to the mid-90s today. Mosquitos are unbearable as well. Ah...life in the tropics! (at least half the year)

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A silver...er...red lining! This new frond popped up today! 1 out of my 9 red feather's in the ground. I think the majority of my palms are going to be okay, if not liking this Century (hopefully) flood.

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FRITO Grand Master

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Niice new leaf...

the best part is most of the plants love this water. we had nearly a 10" deficiet for the year in rainfall before Fay so it should help curbe it if not give us a surplus.

my yard will be fine, im on the side of a gentle hill so everything passes me by. much diffrent than the flat topograpghy of south FL.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

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_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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I wonder how this turned out long term, 5'ish years later.

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