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In some palms as they get old, the roots push through and tear the bottom of the trunk, forming a root mound. When fully formed, they give the impression that the palm is standing atop and is anchored by the root mound. Here are a few photos of root mounds or the beginnings of root mounds.

Jack

Washingtonia robusta

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Lytocaryum weddelianum

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Phoenix roebelenii x reclinata

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Washingtonia hybrid

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Brahea edulis

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Phoenix robusta

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Brahea brandegii

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Phoenix reclinata

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Phoenix roebelenii (clumping)

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not exactly the most "glamorous" part of a palm,is it? :D

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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not exactly the most "glamorous" part of a palm,is it? :D

When my daughter was visiting us recently, I showed off the palms. She was horrified at the bottoms of these palms and asked, "what's that?" I told her that those are the root mounds.

Jack

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That has to be the fatest Lytocaryum weddelianum trunk I have ever seen.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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That has to be the fatest Lytocaryum weddelianum trunk I have ever seen.

Len, I got it from Diegaard in 1970 when it was called Syagrus weddelianum. I planted it under a lathe facing the south side. It gets warmth without direct sun and is somewhat protected from the cold. It is now brushing against the top. I thought of removing the panels to give it more room, but it might be too exposed.

Jack

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The fruit.

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Jack,

I enjoy your posts. Seems like you are long time palm afficionado.

One area thats a bit of a mystery to me is the area below the ground. If a palm dies, the base is usually diseased or damaged, so its not often we have a chance to examine the base intact. Even if we do, its quite often just an impenetrable mass of roots.

I used to visualise the root development area of a palm as a flat plate at the base.

Now I see it differently. In some palms I have observed the root development zone forming as an inverted cone, increasing in diameter until the palm trunks.

In some palms, as soon as the trunk forms the root growth plate stops increasing in area.

In others it seems like that root growth zone continues part way up the "trunk" maybe this is an illusion and its just the fact that the leaf nodes are very close together at the base.

In other cases it looks like a root just busts out of the trunk between leaf nodes.

IMO The most elegant expression of this "root mound"are in Verschaffeltia splendida the most powerful is in Socratea exorhiza but perhaps the least attractive is P. canariensis.

I wonder how many palms have the ability to do this, given the right type of hormone applied at the leaf nodes?

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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I've witnessed this phenomenon in some of my Washingtonias, Syagrus romanzoffiana, Phoenix reclinata, canariensis, and roebelenii. Mounding soil up to and around those root mounds creates a new place for root expansion. Within weeks the new soil is filled with new palm roots and, I believe, a more robust palm is the result.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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I've witnessed this phenomenon in some of my Washingtonias, Syagrus romanzoffiana, Phoenix reclinata, canariensis, and roebelenii. Mounding soil up to and around those root mounds creates a new place for root expansion. Within weeks the new soil is filled with new palm roots and, I believe, a more robust palm is the result.

I agree,but even if it doesn't create a healthier,more robust palm, it sure would look alot better IMHO!

Paul said it, and I concur, not the most attractive part of a palm.

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Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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I've witnessed this phenomenon in some of my Washingtonias, Syagrus romanzoffiana, Phoenix reclinata, canariensis, and roebelenii. Mounding soil up to and around those root mounds creates a new place for root expansion. Within weeks the new soil is filled with new palm roots and, I believe, a more robust palm is the result.

I agree,but even if it doesn't create a healthier,more robust palm, it sure would look alot better IMHO!

Paul said it, and I concur, not the most attractive part of a palm.

I agree. When I finished mounding around my palm's homely root mounds, I was able to plant mosses and other ground covers on the mounds and the new look is incomparable to the old root mound look.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

Facebook Page

Las Palmas Design & Associates

Elegant Homes and Gardens

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I have found that when soil with mulch is piled up around root mounds, the palms respond by activating these dormant root masses in to the added soil and the palms switch gears and explode with added vigor! Anyone else notice this phenominome? It only makes sense cuz in their natural environment their dropped leaves drop and pile up under and around and the roots grow into the mass. Wadda ya think all you einstiens? Try it and see the results...Bob

Robert de Jong

San Clemente, CA

 

Willowbrook Nursery

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bob,i think the plural of "einstein" is actually "einstones."

please make a note of it.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Jack, that is impressive. You got that palm the year I was born!

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Dear Jack :)

lovely stills and even i had seen in our old royals & coconut trees here in our garden...i love it ! since it shows the perferomance of that healthy palm...

recently meg had posted few stills of CIDP's trunking busting making way for more roots to pop out...as seen in a parking lot of a shopping mall.

thanks for those lovely stills...

lots of love,

Kris :)

here are few stills of a hybrid date palm near the place of work ! i cross this palm daily...

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Here is a close-up of the same !

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here is the still of that Palm,which fruits without seeds... :angry:

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Crown close-up ! :drool:

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And by the way this date palm has never clumped in its life time ? And i wanted to grow this palm as a substitute for the CIDP's which i had no accesses then... :rolleyes:

love conquers all..

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