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Date w/ no seed

MattyB

By MattyB
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MattyB

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There's a couple of really nice Phoenix dactylifera over by my grandma's house so I decided to stop and take a look at them. They flank the driveway and one was a male and one was a female with almost ripe dates. I picked a few and munched on them on the drive home. As I ate, I noticed that instead of a seed in the middle like I expected, there was just this little nubbin' thing that crunched in my mouth. It wanted to be a seed but just wasn't. Here's some pics. Is this a sign that this is closely related to the cultivars that are grown for eating? I've picked dates before and they usually have very long, prominent seeds.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

palmtreesforpleasure Grand Master

palmtreesforpleasure

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Hi Matt

The brown centre looks like you ate half the worm :D :D :D

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

Mark Heath Veteran

Mark Heath

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Hey Matty,

I have had the same thing happen to me w/ a Date palm that is close to where i live. I dried the "seed" out and sowed them and low and behold they germinated!!! I put them on top of my refrigerator for about a month to dry and BINGO!!! Try it!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

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iamjv Mentor

iamjv

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I've seen this before as well and have always contributed it to the seed falling prematurely from the tree. In areas other than true desert regions, this may occur due to weather related conditions, i.e. being to wet or moist. Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

The Germinator Mentor

The Germinator

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I've seen this before as well and have always contributed it to the seed falling prematurely from the tree. In areas other than true desert regions, this may occur due to weather related conditions, i.e. being to wet or moist. Jv

I have heard that it does not get hot enough for the seed to devlope out here.

Ed Mijares

Whittier, Ca

Psyco Palm Collector Wheeler Dealer

Zone 10a?

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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matt dont eat those they cause impotence!!!

uh oh... :blink: ...too late.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

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matt dont eat those they cause impotence!!!

uh oh... :blink: ...too late.

:floor:

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

simona Experienced

simona

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In coastal San Diego County (southern California), female date palms (Phoenix dactylifera) produce parthenocarpic fruits without pollination. The fruits contain rudimentary, seedless endocarps, but nontheless are edible. The unpollinated fruits of P. dactylifera are smaller and contain less sugar and pulp compared with commercial pollinated dates. (...) Date palms such as this are planted in the parking areas of shopping centers in San Diego County.

More pics here: http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph10.htm

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Greetings from Amman/Jordan

Simona

iamjv Mentor

iamjv

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Great link! Thanks for sharing Simona. Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Well, the large Phoenix planted along Bancroft Blvd. in Spring Valley all produce delicious dates and have huge seeds. Remember when Paul and I did that pictorial?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

maskona Apprentice

maskona

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I was wondering, can all date palms seed be eaten or just certain ones? Do some taste better then others.

mk

iamjv Mentor

iamjv

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MK, only those in the dactylifera species are edible. Seeds from canary island date, sylvestris and the such don't produce an 'edible' date. There are a number of dactylifera varieties (200+) producing an ample variety of date flavors within the species. JV

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

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