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Plectocomia himalayana

Paco

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Paco

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Hi everyone!

I bought some Plectocomia himalayana seeds some time ago and they are comming out now. I was wondering how will they look like once they start growing. I ve been looking for pictures, but i always come out with the same 3 or 4 pictures.

Do you have a P.himalayana? Could you post some pictures?

What is the growth rate for this palm? cold resistance? Any big plant outside its habitat?

Thanks.

Paco.

"Not the straight angle that attracts me, nor straight, hard, inflexible, created by man. What attracts me is the free and sensual curve, the curves that find in the mountains of my country, in the course of its winding rivers, the sea waves, the body of the woman preferred. Curves is done throughout the universe, the universe of Einstein's curved." -Oscar Niemeyer

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Hi everyone!

I bought some Plectocomia himalayana seeds some time ago and they are comming out now. I was wondering how will they look like once they start growing. I ve been looking for pictures, but i always come out with the same 3 or 4 pictures.

Do you have a P.himalayana? Could you post some pictures?

What is the growth rate for this palm? cold resistance? Any big plant outside its habitat?

Thanks.

Paco.

Hola Paco,

No se si has visto este post del foro Europeo:

http://www.palmsociety.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?topicid=524

Yo creo que en Alicante te puede aguantar bien los inviernos.

Un saludo

malcthomas Community Regular

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Paco

I have a couple of these and would not recommend them. They are not self supporting and need to be tied up to a very tall pole to stop them collapsing. They have very nasty barbs on the end of the leaf rachis that need to me trimmed off to stop ears and other body parts from being ripped off, and very fine spines on the stem and petiole bases that also cause a lot of damage to hands and fingers when picking up dead leaves.

cheers...Malcolm

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear friends :)

do you have any visuals of the palm in discussion ?

thanks & love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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Paco Collaborator

Paco

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Albert for some reason the website doesn't open for me, I think I must become a member firts.

-Albert por algun motivo no me muestra la web, creo que tengo que registrarme como miembro antes.

Paco

I have a couple of these and would not recommend them. They are not self supporting and need to be tied up to a very tall pole to stop them collapsing. They have very nasty barbs on the end of the leaf rachis that need to me trimmed off to stop ears and other body parts from being ripped off, and very fine spines on the stem and petiole bases that also cause a lot of damage to hands and fingers when picking up dead leaves.

cheers...Malcolm

Malcolm !!

Thanks for the reply, it sounds to me that this is the perfect palm against thieves :blink: hahaha, Its good to know that is not very stable, probably it will be happy growing in between trees?

Kris!! I will love to see some pictures too.

Malcolm could you show us yours??

Thanks.

Paco.

"Not the straight angle that attracts me, nor straight, hard, inflexible, created by man. What attracts me is the free and sensual curve, the curves that find in the mountains of my country, in the course of its winding rivers, the sea waves, the body of the woman preferred. Curves is done throughout the universe, the universe of Einstein's curved." -Oscar Niemeyer

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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I bought 10 seeds from RPS +- 5 years ago. Only one seed germinated and it´s growing ,like in habitat,between the branches of a tree in my araucaria forest. It´s now +- 4 m and it shows a shorter branche too. It´s one of my fastest palms. Take care of your ears!!! :lol:

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Jakkrit Enthusiast

Jakkrit

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Sounds great to grow from seed.

I have no P.himalyana but I would like to show my P.elongata to palm lovers. :mrlooney:

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60 meters above the sea level with less than 1000 mm annual rain.

Temperature range is 16 - 38 °C , average is 28 °C approximately.

Start to collected palms , cycads and succulent plants since 2004.

Jakkrit Enthusiast

Jakkrit

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I love this species very much .

This picture show the underside of leave with silver color.

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60 meters above the sea level with less than 1000 mm annual rain.

Temperature range is 16 - 38 °C , average is 28 °C approximately.

Start to collected palms , cycads and succulent plants since 2004.

malcthomas Community Regular

malcthomas

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Paco..

took some photos today, but unfortunately the light was wrong...will re take them for you..

This one is growing up the trunk of a dead Howea. Photo one shows how they branch. They have a vine like habit and I again warn you they are more trouble than they are worth..

kind regards...Malcolm

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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They're awesome. I want one. What an "in-your-face" palm. :yay:

Regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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They aren't a real fast grower here. The first photo is the specimen we originally had that had strted climbing but lost it in the hurricanes back in 2004. It was hooking onto the Monstera leaves and pulling itself up. The 2nd is the replacement. The photo is about a year old, the palm is about 2x the size now.

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We have P. elongata also. It is a much faster grower. This photo is from a couple years ago, the palm is now at least 20ft up into the tree.

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Paco Collaborator

Paco

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WOW!!! Thanks guys for the pictures.

-Jakkrit, they must be very fast for you in Thailand.

-Malcolm, I don´t know what that palm has done to you... probably you had a bad time fixing it so it won't fall, but I must say it looks like a very beautiful and unique palm to me. Many thanks to post the pictures, I didn't know they will get so big. The trunk seems thicker than I thought. Will they climb a Stone wall, if it gets proper fixings?

-Eric, the new P.himalayana looks very "cute", probably it will become a wild scary thing as Malcolm said in a few years :blink: but still very beautiful.

That P. elongata looks great, how cold hardy are they? will they grow in a 9b/10a area? I know how the climate is in Orlando but you still get quite hot days in winter, while our winters down here are usually frost free, but cool for 4 months...

These palms seem canopy lovers, keep the show going, I´ll love to se many more pictures of both species, I heard somewhere that the inflorescence of this palms is a bit bizarre??

Many thanks for the great pictures guys.

"Not the straight angle that attracts me, nor straight, hard, inflexible, created by man. What attracts me is the free and sensual curve, the curves that find in the mountains of my country, in the course of its winding rivers, the sea waves, the body of the woman preferred. Curves is done throughout the universe, the universe of Einstein's curved." -Oscar Niemeyer

Paco Collaborator

Paco

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-Alberto, I'll love to see yours, it seems to me that your climate is pretty much the same as mine.

Pictures!! Pictures!! must seem very interesting in contrast with those Araucarias :drool:

"Not the straight angle that attracts me, nor straight, hard, inflexible, created by man. What attracts me is the free and sensual curve, the curves that find in the mountains of my country, in the course of its winding rivers, the sea waves, the body of the woman preferred. Curves is done throughout the universe, the universe of Einstein's curved." -Oscar Niemeyer

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Some of these pics are up on PACSOA . I am unsure as to what species it is , but what an impressive palm . It had sprawled over much of the garden and then climbed up a massive gum tree . I was lucky to see the flowers .

Trunks were very thick , maybe 10 cms , and the multiple barbs on the flagela [?] were awesome .

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Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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Is that in your garden Michael. I NEED one of those to climb up my gumtree. Anyone walking down the street would see it. NOONE would climb the fence. :drool:

Is there any seed on that one Michael? Would you mind climbing up there for some seed for me? :floor: No, only kidding, I'd never expect anyone to do that.

I'm going to have to get me one of those. They make Calamus muelleri look like a soft fern.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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No that palm was on the grounds of a house I was looking after for a mate about 5 years ago .

He had a great collection , a nice Pigafetta , mature Licuala elegans , lots of Cycads . The Plectocomia did not set seed that I noticed , maybe it's dioeceous ?

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Jakkrit Enthusiast

Jakkrit

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Hi , Paco

If you like rattan palm , I think you should like this one too. Calamus blumei

I just planted this species last year.

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60 meters above the sea level with less than 1000 mm annual rain.

Temperature range is 16 - 38 °C , average is 28 °C approximately.

Start to collected palms , cycads and succulent plants since 2004.

Jakkrit Enthusiast

Jakkrit

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this show the beautiful strip at the apex of trunk.

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60 meters above the sea level with less than 1000 mm annual rain.

Temperature range is 16 - 38 °C , average is 28 °C approximately.

Start to collected palms , cycads and succulent plants since 2004.

malcthomas Community Regular

malcthomas

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"Malcolm, I don´t know what that palm has done to you... probably you had a bad time fixing it so it won't fall, but I must say it looks like a very beautiful and unique palm to me. Many thanks to post the pictures, I didn't know they will get so big. The trunk seems thicker than I thought. Will they climb a Stone wall, if it gets proper fixings?"

Paco..

This one is/was my smaller one and it must be pushing 20 odd feet. The other one (if it is still alive) was on my creek bank which got hit with a flood and the trunk that it was growing up got washed away...It spent many months under water, but one of its branches still on high ground appeared to survive, that is, the last time I took any noticeof it. It had been growing near to a path and as it had lost outright in the friendly user stakes, I never had the inclination to try and retrieve it. The leaf flagellum (thanks Mike) have rows of grappling hook type spines that got caught in my ear lobes 4 or 5 times too many.

The one pictured collapsed after the ties broke and it took a great deal of effort and pain to put it back up despite cutting off all the flagela first and wearing welding gloves. Every leaf which is also spined just wanted to hang on and a number of lovely palms were shredded in the process.

Your stone wall would be great for a while but it would soon out grow it and would need a power or lamp post after that. The stem is no fatter than a broom handle when cleared of the spined petiole sheath..that's a clean stem (green) on the right in the first pic. As they started branching, I would lop the new growth off...but like a triffids they would grow new ones...

regards...Malcolm

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malcthomas

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Paco

found a couple of pictures that I took a few years ago...

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Seedlings dampen off in Florida summer heat and humidity. In order to survive here, a well established juvenile palm is needed.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

tank Grand Master

tank

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Seedlings dampen off in Florida summer heat and humidity. In order to survive here, a well established juvenile palm is needed.

Ray,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this problem. I lost about 50 seedlings potted up in various soil mixes because I wasn't really sure which would be best. All damped off at the second leaf stage late last summer. Big bummer. Maybe it was for the best because those things look vicious.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Jason,

I ordered some seeds again recently. This time, the seedlings will spend the summer indoors.

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

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