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Moles first now this....Ugh

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I have 5 baby Buccaneer palms (florida native) and all 5 have been systematically eaten (the palm fronds) over the last week. This morning I actually saw the frond next to the palm.

I see no rabbit droppings, not ruling them out  but when they were eating my Budha Belly I saw the droppings.

Any ideas out there ?

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Dave-Vero Grand Master

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Probably rabbits.  My neighborhood seems more or less free of rabbits, but they're abundant in other parts of town.  Can't be insects.

Native wood rats would be capable of doing the cutting, and they do build big nests.  They inhabit forested areas (hammocks).  This link is focused on problems, but gives a decent overview of this interesting genus.  Internet center for wildlife damage management  Ancient nests left behind by western packrats have spawned a whole academic field of analysis of ancient vegetation.  Finally, for Florida:

Tropical Hardwood Hammocks

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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That is exactly what the rabbits do at my place.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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Thanks guys. I hope it is rabbits and it probably is since they are all over my neighborhood. I hate the idea of having to surround these palms with chicken wire to fend off the rabbits until they are big enough to be out of reach. Buc palms are extreemly slow growers.

Went to home depot last night and didnt see any type of rabbit repellant.

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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a cat is good reabbit repelant. :)

I had my first casualty on a sereno repens silver seedlings, it had been cut clean threw at the base and the existing still attached seed was chomped off.

I blame squirrels.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

STEVE IN SO CAL Mentor

STEVE IN SO CAL

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A .22 caliber long rifle hollow point is a good rabbit repellent.

If global warming means I can grow Cocos Nucifera, then bring it on....

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This should stop the bleeding for now. I bent the top rim and it's nice and sharp. Muhahahahahaha !

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Looks like rodent damage.  I've had the same thing happen to me at my place.

We have native rats that like to clip leaves to use in their nests, and they periodically take a shine to palms.

They're tough to deal with because they can climb right up trunks and snip off the leaves.  And, they'll snip off a dozen leaves, take, say, six, then leave the rest!

(They're worse than people!)

Keep us posted on how your little repellent basket works.  

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ONe more reason to live in Hawaii.  No rabbits.

Right Bo, Al, Dean.    :D

Wai`anae Steve-------www.waianaecrider.com
Living in Paradise, Leeward O`ahu, Hawai`i, USA
Temperature range yearly from say 95 to 62 degrees F
Only 3 hurricanes in the past 51 years and no damage. No floods where I am, No tornados, No earthquakes
No moles, squirrels, chipmunks, deer, etc. Just the neighbors "wild" chickens

Dave-Vero Grand Master

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Um.  Squirrels.  The Eastern Greys in my yard periodically shower the grass with clipped bits of oak branches.  Nest building.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

Dypsisdean Grand Master

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(WaianaeSteve @ Apr. 06 2008,10:22)

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ONe more reason to live in Hawaii.  No rabbits.

Right Bo, Al, Dean.    :D

And no gophers, moles, squirrels, or deer to speak of. We do have pigs, but they taste great in an imu if you are so inclined.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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Well that didn't help ! Now I am leaning towards it being wood rats. Ridonkulous !  Is this baby bucaneer dead now ? This is crazy, whatever it is, it is only going after the bucaneers.  Time for a nightscope and .22 rifle.

Compare to original shot above.

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MattyB Grand Master

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Doh!  I was thinking rats too.  Now that I see the final pic it's definitely rats.  It's not dead, just defoliated.  It'll come back.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

deezpalms Grand Master

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Yeppers most likely rats! I had a problem with them at my old house. They ate over 30 seedlings then moved on to bigger things and almost totally defoliated a 24" box gigas!! BASTARDS!!!  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

Dave Hughson

Carlsbad, Ca

1 mile from ocean

Zone 10b

Palm freaks are good peeps!!!!!

oppalm Community Regular

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(Floster939 @ Apr. 09 2008,14:36)

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bummer.    You are going to have to do the chicken wire house , with sides and a roof.  They are quite attractive in the garden and a great conversation piece.  goo luck.

Kent in Kansas.

Gowing palm trees in the middle of the country - Kansas.

It's hot in the summer (usually) and cold in the winter (always).

MattyB Grand Master

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I was gonna say get a cat but your woodland rats might put a kitty in a headlock.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Alan_Tampa Mentor

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probably deer, as opposed to rodents.  do you have a fence?

Alan

Tampa, Florida

Zone - 10a

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(Alan_Tampa @ Apr. 09 2008,17:40)

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probably deer, as opposed to rodents.  do you have a fence?

Alan

Well this one I'm certain, I can rule out deer. I live over on the ocean side (barrier island). Been here for 10 + years. I've seen Bobcats, Florida Panther, otters, possum, armadillos, rats etc. But never a deer. I live in gated community too so the securityguard would stop them.  :D

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Ok yard is all baited. The battlefield is ready, the stage is set.

They took down another bucaneer last night too. I now have 2 bucaneer stumps.

I read up on woodrats and they can be killed like the other rats with the warafin/coumadin anticoagulants.

4 Queen palms are baited and I have 2 stand alone bait stations.

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