Pogobobs garden

[BobbyinNY]

Bob,

That's absolutely incredible.... Looks way more like South Florida than I would imagine California to look like... just incredible.

[DoomsDave]

More pics!

[epicure3]

(BobbyinNY @ Sep. 06 2006,09:19)

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Bob,

That's absolutely incredible.... Looks way more like South Florida than I would imagine California to look like... just incredible.

Just substitute Cocos Nucifera for Hedyscape or rhopalostylis.

[pogobob]

Burretiokentia Koghiensis

[Matt in SD]

Great photos of a great garden.  

What are the trunk/stem diameters on the Dypsis albofarinosa?  What struck me most about Jeff Marcus Dypsis albofarinosa (which is the type specimen I think) was that it was a very dainty palm with ~1" thick stems and leaves not more than 3-4 feet long.  The leaflets were also very droopy.  There are some baronii varieties with similarly small stems, but the color is way different and the leaflets aren't as droopy.

And, Pogobob, I've heard rumors (and read in the Palm Journal a comment from Don Hodel) that your Burretiokentia khogiensis may be a different Burretiokentia species.  I'm very curious because I have a plant I got at Jungle Music that is a seedling (well it's about 3 feet tall now) from your tree and it does not have the triangular crown typical of B khogiensis.  I have a similar sized B vieillardii and it's clearly different with a much looser "crownshaft" and paper like "wings" on the petioles.  Could it be B dumasii or B grandiflora?  Whatever it is, it's a great palm and a robust grower.

Thanks,

Matt

Matt

[MattyB]

I sort of wondered about that too.  I have no idea what B. dumasii or B. grandiflora look like but just looking at that B. kogiensis it looks different from what I've seen.  The crown shaft dosen't look open or loose enough, not to mention the missing angular shape.

[MattyB]

Bob, what causes the brown tipping on your D. leptochielos?  Do you think it's the salt air where you are?  I don't think it's sun because these seem to be cookas (loves sun).  I know they shred in wind too.  What do you think it is?

[spockvr6]

(MattyB @ Sep. 06 2006,15:07)

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Bob, what causes the brown tipping on your D. leptochielos?  Do you think it's the salt air where you are?  I don't think it's sun because these seem to be cookas (loves sun).  I know they shred in wind too.  What do you think it is?

I dont think Ive ever seen a Teddy Bear that didnt brown tip!

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(spockvr6 @ Sep. 06 2006,15:20)

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(MattyB @ Sep. 06 2006,15:07)

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Bob, what causes the brown tipping on your D. leptochielos?  Do you think it's the salt air where you are?  I don't think it's sun because these seem to be cookas (loves sun).  I know they shred in wind too.  What do you think it is?

I dont think Ive ever seen a Teddy Bear that didnt brown tip!

I have two that look spectacular, and 4 that don't. I'll post a picture of the two great ones.

[pogobob]

The dypsis was tagged as Scotchiana when I got it from Rancho Soledad nursery a few yrs ago. It also has been id'd as Psammophyla. The stems are 1" and very dark green, the leaves are V'd and the leeflets are very fine.    The Burritiokentia Koghiensis was looked at personally by Don Hodel after his initial response in the Palm Journal, and he agrees that it indeed may be Koghiensis. I have two of these and they have some differences, One is more upright than the other and has the "wings" at the base of the petioles. The flowers and seeed are identical. Don thought that there could be a possibility that these could be B. Dumasii or Grandiflora but further inspections need to be done.      As far as leaf burn on Dypsis Leptochilos, I have seen this in these palms in Hawaii, Costa Rica and Mexico near the oceans, salty winds are my guess.  Meanwhile, checkout the white crownshaft on Hedycepe.

[pogobob]

Now that I have lernt how to post pics(thanks Deezpalms Dave), You may be sorry!

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(pogobob @ Sep. 06 2006,16:09)

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Now that I have lernt how to post pics(thanks Deezpalms Dave), You may be sorry!

I don't think so. Great pictures. God that  white crownshaft Hedycepe is fantastic.

[Matt in SD]

Thanks Pogobob.  Maybe there is variability in B khogiensis, or maybe Burretiokentia will turn out to be the Dypsis of New Caledonia (much confusion and variability blurring the species).  So you must have grown seedlings from both of your B khogiensis candidates.  Did either one have the triangular stem?  Whatever Phil and Jerry Andersen are now selling as B khogiensis is very distinct as a seedling from the other Burretiokentias, and very different from the seedlings from your tree.  As I said in the last post though, It's a great palm and hopefully it will grow up to look just like it's mama.  I think all this confusion just makes collecting palms more fun (what else would we talk about?).

Matt

[Jeff Searle]

First, Dave thanks for sharing these great pictures! Nice to see some New Caledonia palms with size.

Bob,

    I don't think we ever met, maybe at a past biennial, but you have a beautiful collection. You should be PROUD.

  As far as post #36, your picture is Dypsis sp. Fine Leaf. not the true D. ambositrae.

[pogobob]

Thanks Jeff, I think we may have met in Hawaii 2 yrs ago. I remember talking to a couple of nursery people from Florida. I enjoy your posts!!

[cryptobionic]

Ditto the sentiments. Awesome palms!

[deezpalms]

(pogobob @ Sep. 06 2006,13:09)

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Now that I have lernt how to post pics(thanks Deezpalms Dave), You may be sorry!

I seriously doubt that Bob!!  

I'm glad you we're able to get it working my friend!!

[deezpalms]

(deezpalms @ Sep. 05 2006,23:51)

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Ok gang here's a few more! First off, Bobs beautiful Dypsis ambositrae and secondly, the inflorescence of his Dypsis albo/baronii. Pros out there, you be the judge and tell us what type o' Dypsis this is please!!!

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Ok, so any id's on this inflorescence yet??

[Joe palma]

Bob, those are some awesome mature palms! You have an incredible selection. Some of the largest I have seen for their rarity. Love the H. canterburyana!

When did you start planting palms?

Great pictures Dave! Thanks for spending the time.

I think the white crownshaft palm is D. onilahensis as well.

[Zac in NC]

Great Pics. Simply amazing.

Zac

[Zac in NC]

Great Pics. Simply amazing.

Zac

Ooops I got a server error so I went back and tried again and I double posted....oops.

[Kamipalms]

(deezpalms @ Sep. 06 2006,02:27)

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Here are some pictures of the world famous Syagrus "Abre ojos"

Is it me or does that Syagrus look like it may have  little Oenocarpus in it?

pogobob, pleased to meet you and a wonderful garden you have.....you must be proud  

[deezpalms]

interesting Kami!! It sure does look like it may be related somehow. I'll have to see if my palm will grow up to be just like his papa or not.

[deezpalms]

[palmazon]

Dave - those panoramic shots are excellent

any serious freak should make the pilgrimage

(sorry Bob - now you'll be inundated w/lookie-loos)

[deezpalms]

(palmazon @ Sep. 08 2006,08:10)

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Dave - those panoramic shots are excellent

any serious freak should make the pilgrimage

(sorry, Bob - now you'll be inundated w/lookie-loos)

Thanks palmazon!!  

[MattyB]

Round 2 fight!

Pohonkelapa, Palmgrover and I made a pre-PSSC meeting trip to Bob's garden.  Here's more pics!  Some may be the same but somehow I think you'll live.

Roystonea princepes in the neighbor's yard....courtesy of Pogobob!  Very different look.  Notice the fine leaflets.  It's quite old and only 15-20 feet tall, a much smaller palm than the other Royals.

[MattyB]

The huge Foxy Lady hybrid!  Just a real looka!

[MattyB]

The C. macro. showing the most yellow in a watermelon I've seen.  It's real nice.

[MattyB]

Bob also has a lot of nice companion plants around.  My favorite was this full sun Bromeliad.  He says it's a tough one, requiring very little water.

[MattyB]

D. ambositrae fakey showing a peachy keen crownshaft.

[MattyB]

A particularly robust specimine of R. sapida chatham island form.

[MattyB]

Paul doing his Vanna White.  "Can I get a Hedescepy?"

[MattyB]

Now this one tripped me out.  Veilonia alba!  I didn't know there were any around this big!

[MattyB]

V. alba again.  Can you imagine this one with a few feet of trunk.  Dave, sit down!

[MattyB]

Burretiokentia vellardii.  What can I say?  Even out of focus it looks good.

[MattyB]

A walking stick chillin' on someones hairy paw.  Thanks for the tour Bob deJong!

[JD in the OC]

Your unknown dypsis looks like albo to me.  If you look in the palm journal where it was described, Bob's plant shares the same number of rachilliae in the inflorescences and the same curve to the tips of the leaflets (actually a back-curve).  The stem diameter and leaf length are similar as well.  I think Rancho may have got a lot of plants in from Marcus' original albo and someone there ID'd them as Dypsis Schotiana-affinis, just so they would have a name (as opposed to Dypsis sp. white petiole their old name).

.....My two cents.....

[Jeff Searle]

(Kamipalms @ Sep. 08 2006,09:29)

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(deezpalms @ Sep. 06 2006,02:27)

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Here are some pictures of the world famous Syagrus "Abre ojos"

Is it me or does that Syagrus look like it may have  little Oenocarpus in it?

pogobob, pleased to meet you and a wonderful garden you have.....you must be proud  

You know, after looking at this more, I think you have a good argument. I'v never seen a Syagrus look quite like that, but it does have that Oenocarpus look! What a score this would be!!! Somebody needs to start looking at the flowers a little closer when they come out.

[palmazon]

100% germination on them Hedyscepe