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Jubutia F1 and Jubaea


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Posted

Ok, i know, this two monsters are planted too close, but different then Brahea armata, the Jubutia and the green Jubaea chilensis can be easily transplanted as will be in the next spring.-

Autome is here, today is sunday and dont stop to rain in Cordoba since a week ago, so, its time to show pictures....:-)

jubutiajubaeaandbraheaaok6.jpg

In the right Jubaea X Butia F1

In the middle, smaller and green, a Jubaea chilensis planted in the same time, both come from the same batch of Jubaea chilensis seeds, so it was not hybridized by the Butia growing nearly the Jubaea mother palm. (the Jubaea mother was planted around 1836 and its one of the few growing in the whole country)

The surprise was the hybrid, not the green Jubaea.-

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/624/jub...dbraheaaok6.jpg

From aprox. 100 seeds, half were hybrid and another half pure blood Jubaea chilensis.-

Posted

Gaston,

That is the first good picture I've seen of a juvinile Jubaea X Butia. That is a very handsom palm and obviously a hybrid because it's grown so much faster than the pure Jubaea. You have seen pictures of my Butia X Jubaea and they look much different, yours more like a Jubaea and mine more like a Butia. It will be very interesting to see what yours develops into. I expect it will grow into a very large palm, so give it plenty of room to grow and full sun, or as much as you can give it. I expect they will transplant well in early spring.

Thanks again for the nice pictures.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

Posted

Gracias Gaston! Nice palms! You can easily see the difference of growth!

I remember you telling about the place in (provincia?) Buenos Aires (?)were you found this seeds. Thats was a few years ago....

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Very nice.........makes me want one. If it has Butia in it, it might survive the humidity here.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

Very nice palms i like that hybrid!

Robbin

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Posted

Sweet!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Patrick Schafer got a very sucessfull cross of Jubaea X Butia last year and some of the seeds have already germinated. He also got another good cross with Jubaea X (Butia X Jubaea). It will be interesting to see how fast the two hybrids grow and if one grows faster than the other. These crosses were done under controlled conditions, so they should all come true. As you know, pure Jubaeas are painfully slow to get started.

Gaston's photograph graphically demonstrates how much faster the hybrid grows than the pure Jubaea. I sure wish I had one, but I've run out of room for another large palm.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

Posted

Evil thought.........

My neighbor who lives across the street has a vacent lot next to his house, about a half an acre, and I presume a new house will be built there soon. We are not on friendly terms since I opposed the dividing of his property, but after a city hearing for a change in zoning, he won. The vacent lot lies right across the street from me.

He has already planted a row of Queen palms in front of his house, so maybe he might be receptive to some more palms in front of the new house. I would like to look out my kitchen window and see a nice Jubaea X Bultia growing there....and other palms too. I will have to make a peace offering to that man.....maybe a palm as a gift?? With all the container palms I have, I could landscape his entire garden.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

Posted

Dick

On yesterday i was re reading an excelent article about your JubaeaXButia capitata in PSST (Palms Society of South Texas) Vol 5 Nro. 4 winter 2000/2001 page 23 that make reference to the surce of the seeds of your famous palm Fred Buotine of the Huntington Gardens who hand pollinate the trees in 1973...

An excelent article wich i reccomend its reading.-

Posted

Hi Gaston,

Thanks for telling me as I didn't even know there was such an article. I know it was mentioned, and a photograph, in the European or the French PS journal. I need to get some new pictures as it's much taller now.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

Posted

(PalmGuyWC @ Mar. 31 2008,12:56)

QUOTE
Evil thought.........

My neighbor who lives across the street has a vacent lot next to his house, about a half an acre, and I presume a new house will be built there soon. We are not on friendly terms since I opposed the dividing of his property, but after a city hearing for a change in zoning, he won. The vacent lot lies right across the street from me.

He has already planted a row of Queen palms in front of his house, so maybe he might be receptive to some more palms in front of the new house. I would like to look out my kitchen window and see a nice Jubaea X Bultia growing there....and other palms too. I will have to make a peace offering to that man.....maybe a palm as a gift?? With all the container palms I have, I could landscape his entire garden.

Dick

Dick, not evil  :angry: .......smart  :cool:

I would be totally upfront with the guy and say that the palm would someday be worth alot of money and that it would increase the value of the lot.....etc. etc.

Most people do not have a clue as to the value of palms (until they go and try and buy one) I would definately approach the guy with not only the asthetic value but the monetary value of your offer.

Geez-I wished you lived across the street from me!  :D

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

David,

The guy is a Russian and a wheeler-dealer, so I'm sure he would apprecite the palms if money was connected to it. As I said, we haven't been on the best of terms, and I've never even shown him my palms, most which are in the back of my place. I'm sure he would be impressed with my Jubaeas and their value. I think I'll eat crow and invite him over sometime. Hell, I'd even buy him some palms if he would plant them, and then I would get to enjoy them. It would just be an extention of my garden. Selfish, I suppose, but we all have motives.

Dick

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