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Pinanga elmerii &  philippinensis

CarloSpain
CarloSpain
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Is would like to know if Pinanga elmerii is synonym  pinanga  philippinensis. I have seed diferent photos of both specis.

Thanks

Malaga, South Spain 'Costa del Sol'  Zone 10b

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Maybe Bo can post a pic of his P. phillipinensis/P. elmeri.  At least I think that's what he has growing next to his driveway on the left as you enter from the street.  There's 2 distinct forms going on there.  One has more color in the crownshaft if I remember correctly.  Bo.....taking any requests?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Carlos, I know Pinanga elmeri had been lumped into P. philippinensis.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

doh!  The "&" is jacking with my auto reply feature.arg

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Matt,

I'm always open for requests! :)  And yes, as far as I know, P. philippinensis is the valid name, and that incorporates what was previously referred to as P. elmeri. Not sure what the difference is, if any. Here are a few photos.

First, some that have a bit of color on the crownshaft.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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    As can be seen, there's a bit of variability between different individuals. Here's one with not so much color.

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    Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

     

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    And a close-up of the crownshaft.

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    Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

     

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    And the fruit. Unable to post this photo in the larger format. Too much detail.

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    Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

     

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    One more, taken just a little while ago

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    Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

     

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    Interestingly enough, both the ones without color were fruiting when we were there and the ones without color were not.  They look different wheather they're both called P. philipinensis or not.  Sort of like P. coronata and P. kuhlii.  Even though they're both supposed to be called P. coronata they're different.

    Matt Bradford

    "Manambe Lavaka"

    Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

    10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

    9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

    • 10 years later...

    Mine is slow but steady. Recently started flowering too.

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    I love the color on the stems of these. This is one that I have to prune back a bit as it reall wants to cluster. 4-5 stems is about all I can take.. Nice that yours is flowering. How old would you guess it is?

    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

    Thought I’d add one from my 10a zone. Not like they are in the tropics, but surprisingly resilient in this area. 

    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    17 hours ago, quaman58 said:

    I love the color on the stems of these. This is one that I have to prune back a bit as it reall wants to cluster. 4-5 stems is about all I can take.. Nice that yours is flowering. How old would you guess it is?

    I would say about 6 years from a Jeff Marcus order. They were 1gals. Yeah they can be bushy-but not a very big palm.

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    Funny how each stem can have a different color...

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    • 5 years later...

    Hello 👋

    Bringing this topic up again - I am wondering if anyone in SoCal growing p. philippinensis has good experience with the sun requirements? I have a nice spot that gets morning and early afternoon (7-1pm) at most sun in the summer but otherwise part shade/shade.

    Debating between pyriformis or this one.

    thanks in advance. I am in Santa Ana, CA. 

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