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It's wintertime in Holland with snow and a few degrees below zero C.. Nothing to worry about, just enjoying the view of the garden with some Trachy. fortunei, a Chamaerops humilis vulcano, laurels with winterprotection for the stems and a few date palms! By the end of the week, it will all be over again!

@juju95 I would say Elaeis Guineensis, but a rare mutation called "whole leaf" or "Idolatrica." ...and welcome to Palmtalk!

Christmas Palm seeds update. Received these seeds in late November & nearly every seed germinated by the middle of December, so these seedlings are around 3 weeks old now. Thank you again! @kinzyjr

@PalmBossTampa It does look like you might have gotten the link for the poster rather than the thread. I took the liberty to correct it in your post. All: For the podcasts mentioned, we've linked them on the CFPACS site on our Publications page: https://cfpacs.com/org/palmateer/ The Webinar I did back in February 2021 is the third link down IPS Webinar - A Blank Slate to Flourishing Palm Garden. All of them were great from my point of view, but some of them are not searchable. In addition to webinars, all of the CFPACS publications back to 1990 are posted for everyone to enjoy. Hope this helps.

Mine is nice and curvy…

Nothing special nor rare just some common forms set free from the pot.

Palm was received as Ptycho woodfordiana. But don’t think that’s a species. Also seeds aren’t star shaped in cross section when cut. I’m thinking Pinanga philippinensis?

Finally got a bloom, overeating lookin inflorescence. Tim

You guys get a few more points in California for Rhopalostylis, Ceroxylon, Hesyscepe, etc. hah! Here’s my Blue Decipiens. Still a ways off from trunking when they seem to speed up. I’m guessing this one is 8-9 feet tall from ground to tip of newest leaf.

Yes, there is even more snow than here at Lake Constance, although I would prefer no snow at all in the community garden rather than the few centimeters we had and some still have. Perhaps I should have visualized that even more or better 😊

Wimmie, which region are you in exactly? How cold are the winters there on average over many years? In any case, you have a wonderful collection of exotic plants that you care for 🤗

When you want

I can't imagine a scene with so much snow in my garden, I would lose all the plants😥

Oh my , that seems challenging. It looks like you have a system though. Harry

I've been fascinated by this tiny mutant variation of the familiar Rhapis excelsa but over the years managed to kill several when I repotted and/or separated the clumps. Last fall I bought another pot of this densely clumping palm from Jeff Searle and swore to handle it extra carefully. On the surface, this variation looks like a rat's nest of grasslike leaves. On closer inspection you will see among the strap leaves tiny palmate leaves of 3-4 leaflets belonging to 6" tall, 1/8" diameter stems of individual palms. This afternoon I brought my Super Dwarf out of the jungle to inspect and trim away excess dead leaves. And what did I find? In the center of the clump one little stem was producing an infructescense of 5-6 green seeds. I've never seen that before so I grabbed my phone and 4X reading glasses to document this find. Unfortunately for all of us, I've read that Rhapis Super Dwarf is female only so those seed are infertile. But it shares the same structure as its gigantic cousins. It wasn't easy capturing this one stem among 100s of others so I marked some of the photos. Rhapis excelsa "Super Dwarf" w/seeds, Cape Coral, FL

A garden owner here in China is selling this. I'm not sure it is exactly the Super Dwarf form. He said his uncle has propagated a lot from a dwarf variant individual of Rhapis excelsa that he found many years ago.

It is tricky to see differences between C arenarum and C lutescens because they have similar traits and C lutescens especially can be variable. From what I’ve seen, I’d say this is what I look for: Emergent spear colour: C arenarum- always red/maroon. C lutescens - variable from slightly red to green. Even if red, it’s usually not as striking as C arenarum and colour is only on recently exposed spear at the base near the growth point. Trunk: C arenarum- when young, usually a blue/green with a silvery sheen. When older, colour darkens. C lutescens - variable especially depending on sun exposure and climate but ranges from a blue/green similar to C arenarum all the way through to golden yellow. Growth habit: C arenarum- fronds and trunks generally more upright. New stems form by splitting at the growth point. C lutescens - trunks arch away from each other more and fronds arch further down towards horizontal. Clumping habit generally more dense although this is variable and there are solitary specimens. New stems form via new shoots at ground level, splitting at growth point or aerial branches. A couple of photos of mine which may or may not help: C arenarum: C lutescens:

Ghe xe un mucio de altre palme ca podarìa sopraviver li, butia, phoenix theofrastii etc. La dactylifera xe una dele me palme favorite ma intel me zardín a ne go mucio de spassio, sfortunatamente. El xe sojo 450 metri quadrati e la xe na palma enorme. Un di a vegnerò a Venessia par praticar el véneto e forse anca vedar el to zardín!

Update #2: Several more Serenoa repens seeds from @Boca Palms germinated. They’re in their own cups now. Update #3: Currently soaking the Buccaneer Palm seeds that @Johnny Palmseed sent my way. Thank you again for the seeds! I need springtime to hurry up. 😂

or rupicola It doesn't look like my hybrids roebelenii x reclinata,roebelenii x dactylifera

It’s not cunninghamiana or purpurea. On the basis of probability I’d go with alexandrae but that’s a pure guess. To rule out tuckeri, myolensis, or maxima you’d need to see it in flower and up close, to start narrowing it down properly.

Hey Tom, thank you for the kind message. Let me give you my honest opinion about warm winters. The only thing why I pray for a mild winter is because of my plants , that's the only reason. I can't stand long periods of hot weather and I really hoped for a cooler winter to get a break from the never-ending summer lol. We have 2 more months of zick zack weather then the weather patterns become more stable and warmer. I miss the snow that's why I'm going to spend 5 days in Colorado next week.

@Mishaq Loureiroi has a fairly thin trunk, as does Reclinata. I could see those as a Reclinata pruned to just one trunk, maybe?

Yep, it's not cheap. That said, you have some time to decide what you want to do and maybe you'll get a scholarship or some grants to offset the cost. I didn't start growing palms until after I graduated, so you have a leg up there. My choices when I graduated were moving here or moving to SoCal. The primary drivers for coming here were that it was cheaper for housing and I already knew a few people in the area. If you're open to other options as far as majors, USF and UCF have some really good programs and are public. They also have decent botanical areas on campus. FIT in Melbourne has the Dent Smith Trail and is very close to a lot of other botanical gardens and CFPACS members. If you and the family happen to be in the neighborhood down here, go ahead and holler and I can show you all around. My garden is always open to you all for a tour as well: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/52296-palms-and-others-of-interest/ Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the college/university.

Agreed. And wow!!

Sunny ( for most areas of town. Some clouds hanging around to the west / north ) and 71F at 3:49PM as the first weekend of 26 and ..most.. of the holiday lights come down for the year.. Week ahead looks ..pretty avrg. Maybe more spit mid week. Yesssir, when it comes to rain, anything less than .25" is ..spit. Dry ( ..or so it appears atm ) beyond that slight chance for rain. Looking at the two, main extended forecasts i trust the most ( ..which isn't 100% btw ) Not too bad. Like time and date's more but it has a tendency to flip n' flop more than WX Undergrounds.. Heck, half an hour ago, it was tempting me with a couple 80F days as we approach mid month. Current " flip " holds temps down in the more logical lower 70s for the same timeframe.. We'll see if either pans out. That said, ..If today's 6 - 10 and 8 - 14 day thoughts from the CPC are roughly " in the park " as we head forward, perhaps the first 80F day(s) of 2026 are possible, sooner than i'd thought. Nice thought, but, ..we'll see.. Regardless, not a bad look / nuthin' to howl about as we trek thru the middle of " winter " here in the low desert / rest of the Southwest.. Think CA could use a nice break from the rain again too. Pretty decent Spring Wildflower season appears to be locked in for most of the state this year. Some pockets of color around to enjoy i'm sure ..but, not looking like a " super - year " out here this spring.. Want a lot of Snow in the mountains ..Outside parts of the Pac. N.W / upper interior west / Sierra? ( Don't think it's looking all that great, despite the storms, up there too ) this winter ain't looking like your winner. Still some time of course, ..but, you'd be better not to place any bets on a February or March Miracle this year.

Those hybrids you have mentioned, have considerably thicker trunks.

I hope everyone is having a great new year so far! Here are a few pics from today.

Golf course at Lajitas Resort, which borders Big Bend and the Rio Grande.

I went walking in Crescent Bend Nature Park today. The area was a residential area until it flooded in 1996 and 1997. It was then made into a park with lots of trails. There are a couple of old Washingtonias in the park that were likely in someone's backyard at some point. They blend in nicely in the savanna environment of the park though:

Clear Lake Shores, Texas

Üdvözlet minden pálmafa-rajongó társamnak, Szeretném bemutatni mediterrán kertünket, amelyet 2008 óta építünk és szépítünk. Télen a pálmafákat lefedjük és fűtjük, kivéve a kint az utcán álló Trachycarpus fortunei-t. Gyula, Délkelet-Magyarország. Normális esetben USDA 7b zóna, de az elmúlt 8 évben 8b lett.

Doesn't it all depend on what you are growing?! Due to climatwarming I now am able to grow Trachycarpus and Chamaerops humilis varieties in the open ground and I consider to give it a try with Phoenix canariensis and Butia capitata which I am growing in containers up to now and almost without any protection!

For sale in 1 lot. Includes postage in Australia ONLY. Paypal, buyer to pay any fees. $95.00

Next stop was a new access point to Almaden Quicksilver County Park i'd wanted to get eyes on that opened to the public a few years ago located on the west side of where i'd been earlier. Here, vegetation is much lusher / more typical of what one sees along either side of the Santa Cruz Mountains.. While not quite as moist once air from the coast gets over the mountains, this side of the mountains can still squeeze out enough that you'll see a very different palate of plants covering more area across the hills.. During wetter winters, can't count how often you could see heavy rain pouring over the slopes here while far less of it would make it to the area where Santa Teressa Park is located, let alone the east side of the Santa Clara Valley / overall San Jose, despite the short distance between each area. Very dramatic example / science lesson of the " rain shadowing " effect of the coast hugging mountains out here / in most of the coastward side of the state? ..definitely. To some degree, the rain shadowing effect can easily confuse folks whenever a flash flood warning had been issued for the county ..I mean, if you're hanging out / your home is located somewhere where it isn't raining much, you might assume there was nothing to be concerned with ..until the runoff from the 4 - 8" of rain falling in under a few hours up here starts working it's way to where you're located.. As for the new access point into the park? is located toward the top of a well known hill in the neighborhood ( Mockingbird Hill ) While i never did ( my HS years trouble making spot was a different, neighborhood " hill " ) plenty of people i knew would tell late night / weekend stories of racing up / down this hill in their cars, on bikes / skateboards / Go -karts ...Or rolling bowling balls / dragging other stuff down it ...Don't ask, ha ha.. Compared to my spot, Mockingbird Hill area was far less developed until ~roughly~ the mid -90s, when overall development in Almaden exploded. No way someone is going to try much of anything up there now, lol. Assuming the property the county purchased was part of a ranch / larger privately owned land parcel since it would've been added when the county created Quicksilver Park itself. As the name suggests, the park preserves where the greatest Quicksilver / Mercury mining occurred in " New " Almaden.. ..And yes, if you venture deeper into the park, you can still observe plenty of artifacts from the area's mining days, ..as well as raw Cinnabar Ore, ...if you know where to look. New Almaden Mining Museum is a couple miles further south down the road out here, near where the main entrance to the park is located. While the views were nice enough, would like to see this area in the spring, when everything is flowering, and the sun angle / deg. of haze in the air is less of an issue.. On a side note, this side of the valley is prime Mtn. Lion country ..so it's wise to always have your head on a swivel when venturing into the hills out here, esp. in the mornings/ late afternoon, ...even if most of those big kitties will run when they see any 2 - leggeds on a trail. Believe Black Bears once roamed these hills also, before being driven out of the area sometime in the late 1800s / early 1900s. Wouldn't be shocked to hear of one or two wandering into the area from where they are seen further south in recent decades. As crazy, loud, and hectic as life can be down in the valley, a trip up into the hills here might mirror a walk in the Appalachian mountains back east.. Very quiet, for the most part, out here. Head west or southwest of the ridge where this access point is located and it's quite remote ..and a bit intimidating, if out there late at night. Some reminders.... Parking lot area shots from various angles.. Looking North.. West.. South.. PLENTY of " Great Oaks " out here.. In this case, some impressive Coast Live Oak ( Quercus agrifolia ) Wandering down the trail, plenty of great examples of Valley ( Quercus lobata ) and Blue Oak ( Q. douglasii ) dominant woodland. Pretty sure specimens of Q. kelloggii, CA Black Oak, can be found out here too. Can see a stand of em' atop a low hill from my grandparent's house nearby. Q. douglasii Q. lobata... With Phoradendron sp. ( Leafy Mistletoes ) hanging from the branches. While most were on the smaller side, plenty of CA. Bay Laurel ( Umbellularia californica ) dotting shadier slopes / finger creeks / canyon heads here. While related to the" traditional " Bay tree ( Mediterranean region origin ) leaves of our native Bay are a bit stronger so, while they can be used to flavor food, in place of the usual species, you'd use less ..unless you want a good headache or stomach trouble, lol. Avocado - like seeds can be roasted / consumed ..and are considered quite flavorful. Again though, use / consume sparingly and only after proper ID / preparation.. A couple early native wildflowers.. First thought is that the first is something in the Rose Family ... Geum macrophyllum or similar sp. perhaps, but, that may be far from accurate.. Second i'm pretty sure is closely related to / in the genus Heuchera, Alum Roots.. Both are quite common in the hills on this side of the valley. Nice specimens of Pentagramma triangularis ( probably var. triangularis ) < CA. > Goldback Fern. The other sub species, ssp. semipallida, also occurs in the area so, some of the specimens i encountered here and elsewhere may be that sp. First of two locally native Fern sps. encountered here.. >>>>>>>>>>>>

Naive me didn’t initially think of intellectual property legalities, by-laws of the orginization etc. Just would be great for the expansion of palm knowledge to better release whats been learned into modern media world IPS site on YouTube doesn’t include many of the webinars that CFPACS has linked so they are hard to find. This may end up being a good source of revenue for preservation ?

i just did some research and florida southern is a private college that 46,000 dollars a year, plus you have to live in dorms all 4 years my only other option is Florida university for horticulture. Gainesville is definitely not better than jacksonville for palms.

Dioon edule with its second frond

Tentatively set 1st meeting @ Jones Landscape Nursery in Moore Haven 3/21/2026

Hmmmm Looks like I’m the only one aside from @Harry’s Palms who has Palm-A-Bilia. Here’s a picture on the wall. Overkill? Oh well…

These are technically my wife's, but I've been tending them for years. I'm going to guess they're 25 years old. Inside for the winter, although this week is going to be nice. They've gotten heavy over the years and I generally don't just move them on a whim. This winter has been mild so far, hopefully it stays that way

Ciaro! Párlato? Mi so drío impararlo.

This Sabal palmetto BRIDGEPORT is perhaps the most Northern example of Sabal palmetto surviing outside its zone without extra lights or heat; It's been outside in Bridgeport since 2009 we do 'mummy 'wrap it in the winter for extra protection you can see it throughout its life here at the Connecticut Notable tree website https://oak.conncoll.edu/notabletrees/ViewTreeData.jsp?selected=226219 i think we have dispelled the myth that these palms cant be grown up north; The trunk now is huge and the top fronds reach the second floor of a large building close to the Long Island sound,which shields it from the North wind if it was out in the open, if may have succombed, but the microclimate is incredible * shielded from the North wind *close to long island sound on three of the 4 sides * close to the foundation of an old 1960's building,which might leak some heat Bridgeport is Zone 7, but this might be a zone 8a/7b microclimate for sure Truly a miracle to see some shots from 2024 and 2025 Take care, DrZnaturally

2 pics from yesterday and 2 from today. I love this dypsis Mt. something or other

Chapeau!

Two cousins to compare..armata and super silver..

That's dedication to winter protection! 😊

Sabal uresana and two individuals of Brahea decumbens on a warm December day in Central Texas

Just a handful of local pics from yesterday. Nice robusta at the San Antonio Zoo: A little coconut still hanging in there in December, also at the zoo. I liked this pair of S. mexicana on the river at The Pearl. I thought the people in the shot help demonstrate the scale. At my own house this morning, I caught a tenant living in my Washingtonia. This Washingtonia continues to grow at a rapid pace. Here it was when planted late in May of 2024: In October 2024: May 2025: And today:

San Angelo, Texas Tech