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Allen

Looking for a Sabal ID.  This thing just seems so robust.   I know it's tough to ID -   minor?, Louisiana or another hybrid?

Palm Info: sold to me by Jungle music palms as a S. minor 2017 strap fronds

- Grew this size 5.5-6 feet from liner in 5 seasons

- seed stalks extend beyond fronds 7-8 feet with seed roughly same size as S. minor

- fronds 3.5-4 feet wide mild-moderate costapalmate with a few fibers

- Petiole - 3' Tough requires saw to cut

- fronds collapse in strong wind/ice

- withstands single digits with only spotting damage on fronds

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Size on 5/2018 after 1 year in ground

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Alex Zone 5

Since you've mentioned it came from California. Don't you just love the mystery with sabal minor.

Here is my guest. 

Sabal Blackburniana

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Dartolution

Allen I have a blackburniana from Phil, and it does not resemble the palm you've provided images of.

Mine is a little over 6 feet tall now, and the fronds have started becoming more recurved. It has not flowered - at this size a minor would have already flowered. 

 

With the inflorescence held above the canopy and the deep divide in the frond I would guess minor of some kind. 

Phil is usually very good with labeling. 

 

 

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Allen
36 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

Allen I have a blackburniana from Phil, and it does not resemble the palm you've provided images of.

Mine is a little over 6 feet tall now, and the fronds have started becoming more recurved. It has not flowered - at this size a minor would have already flowered. 

With the inflorescence held above the canopy and the deep divide in the frond I would guess minor of some kind. 

Phil is usually very good with labeling. 

 

Yea I don't think blackburniana can take single digits with little damage.

Any other thoughts?

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teddytn

Sabals that I repeatedly hear about the leaves collapsing under snow or strong winds, along with the growth rate, hardiness and robust nature, I say Louisiana. Just a guess, but I would say 100% not normal minor. Growth rate is too fast, growing too vertical for minor. 

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dalmatiansoap

Any ideas?

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Phoenikakias
57 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Any ideas?

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Hey Ante, if it has not bloomed yet, it has chances to be bermudana, if it has bloomed or if it will bloom during the next few years, then it is a minor hybrid.

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Jubaea_James760

If its not a regular minor the Louisiana Minor is a good guess. Here's my SoCal minor for comparison.  The wind tears up the leaves on this one as well.

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