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KentiaPalm

To each your own on taste and preference in particular palm species used in the landscape.

Triangle Palms (Dypsis Decaryi) is hideous.

It looks like it came off the side of a dirt road covered in dust suffering from a fungal disease on it’s mutated/bludgeoned crownshaft.
 

I prefer my Bismarckias and Archontophoenix thank you

opinions anyone?

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RedRabbit

Gotta say I agree... :innocent:

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redant

Queens are much worse IMO. 

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Jeff985

Can’t argue with that. D. Decaryi that is. I actually like queens. 

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KentiaPalm
2 minutes ago, redant said:

Queens are much worse IMO. 

QueenS are bad too with there stupid stumpy grey crownshaft and droopy messy looking fronds . 2nd on my list

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Silas_Sancona

While Triangles wouldn't crack the top 20 on my personal " favorites " list, have seen some nicely grown specimens. That said... like Queens ( don't even register on the same list ) seen many hideous and sad specimens also.  X Tri-Bears on the other hand... Would probably try a pair.

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Meangreen94z

In the right climate a Dypsis Decaryi can look great. The ones I’ve seen outside in Texas look stressed, but there’s a really nice one located in the greenhouse of a local nursery. If I had a similar sized greenhouse I would own it as well.

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James B

Nothing is uglier than a Washingtonia or Sabal or any fan palm. I’ll take Dracaryi any day over a fan palm.

licualata is the only exception lol.

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James B

That said the uglier a palm the tougher it is. 
 

Not big fan of Queen Palms because they are not self cleaning and they are a dime a dozen here in the inland empire. Every house in Rancho Cucamonga or Upland has 4 or 5 queen palms. And for good reason, they are tough, cold hardy, grow faster than King Palms and don’t turn into desiccated pieces of poo like Royal Palms once the Santa Anna’s pick. Shocking a palm from Brazil could be so tough here in the desert.

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Xenon
1 hour ago, Meangreen94z said:

In the right climate a Dypsis Decaryi can look great. The ones I’ve seen outside in Texas look stressed, but there’s a really nice one located in the greenhouse of a local nursery. If I had a similar sized greenhouse I would own it as well.

Dypsis decaryi looks great in the RGV. Pretty much the perfect climate for them - hot and humid but not too much rainfall. 

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Neil C

Not a big triangle fan but occasionally they can show quite a bit of colour near the growing point.

Regards Neil

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gtsteve

Crikey, I can't believe it, you guys are just asking for it.

I have been hammered here for expressing  a less than favorably opinion on one palm or another, in the past.

I'm almost too scared to now. How do some people get away with it? 

Oh yeah, I see,  Canadian, everyone likes Canadians.  :P

  

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KentiaPalm
1 minute ago, gtsteve said:

Crikey, I can't believe it, you guys are just asking for it.

I have been hammered here for expressing  a less than favorably opinion on one palm or another, in the past.

I'm almost too scared to now. How do some people get away with it? 

Oh yeah, I see,  Nova Scotia, everyone likes Canadians.  :P

  

Thanks mate, that’s generous of you. Tell those people with their nose hoisted in the air to smell the sweet dates .

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NickJames
3 hours ago, KentiaPalm said:

To each your own on taste and preference in particular palm species used in the landscape.

Triangle Palms (Dypsis Decaryi) is hideous.

It looks like it came off the side of a dirt road covered in dust suffering from a fungal disease on it’s mutated/bludgeoned crownshaft.
 

I prefer my Bismarckias and Archontophoenix thank you

opinions anyone?

Lol. Maybe I just like it because it’s not even supposed to be planted here! 

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KentiaPalm

To each their own...:rolleyes:

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Meangreen94z
1 hour ago, Xenon said:

Dypsis decaryi looks great in the RGV. Pretty much the perfect climate for them - hot and humid but not too much rainfall. 

The ones I’ve seen down there look ok, but a little stressed. Here’s a couple from my dream 15 acre plot down in RGV. The house isn’t perfect but I love the lot. What other part of the U.S. can you get this for $385k? :

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I’ll have to take a picture of the one in the local greenhouse, to me it’s spectacular.

 

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greysrigging

I remember back in the day ( late 1980's ) when Triangle Palms were THE exotic / must have palm of choice for Darwin gardeners. ( this was before Foxtails took over that mantle ). Ruthlessly marketed by local nurserys and box stores. I bought in to the hype and planted a row on my verge. I thought they looked ok..... but of course with the passage of time ( and the dreaded wilt ) they've died off, still a few left that seem to thrive on neglect and not much care. I don't think in reality that they are entirely happy in my climate and I have seen nicer specimens at 32*S rather than my 12*S.
Mine produce viable seed ( irregularly ) and are 30 years old.
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Meangreen94z
2 minutes ago, greysrigging said:

I remember back in the day ( late 1980's ) when Triangle Palms were THE exotic / must have palm of choice for Darwin gardeners. ( this was before Foxtails took over that mantle ). Ruthlessly marketed by local nurserys and box stores. I bought in to the hype and planted a row on my verge. I thought they looked ok..... but of course with the passage of time ( and the dreaded wilt ) they've died off, still a few left that seem to thrive on neglect and not much care. I don't think in reality that they are entirely happy in my climate and I have seen nicer specimens at 32*S rather than my 12*S.
Mine produce viable seed ( irregularly ) and are 30 years old.
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Now, that’s what I’m talking about. Those are spectacular. I don’t know how you can’t love that.

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KentiaPalm

Meangreen your dream property has real good bones, I can See why you would like it so much (other then the triangle palms in the foreground) .

i love the picture of the tree with the small fire pit gorgeous.

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Silas_Sancona
14 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

The ones I’ve seen down there look ok, but a little stressed. Here’s a couple from my dream 15 acre plot down in RGV. The house isn’t perfect but I love the lot. What other part of the U.S. can you get this for $385k? :

 

https://www.har.com/homedetail/18413-landrum-park-rd-san-benito-tx-78586_gallery/6912485

 

Actually, the listing i'd found on Zillow awhile back, up in Fallbrook ( North County San Diego ) for a 49.56 acre parcel of land..  is now down to $289,500.00. Kind of far out,  but would be a consideration if i had the money atm.. Talk about a garden, lol..  Listing on Zillow is:  0 Tenaja Truck Trail, Fallbrook, CA. for anyone who wants to check it out.

 

 

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Xenon
15 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

The ones I’ve seen down there look ok, but a little stressed. Here’s a couple from my dream 15 acre plot down in RGV. The house isn’t perfect but I love the lot. What other part of the U.S. can you get this for $385k? 

But (palm-wise) you'll regret living in San Benito :P San Benito/Harlingen = 9b.  10-15 miles south or east of San Benito is 10a.  Personally, I'm partial to a resaca front lot in Bayview. This stretch of the aptly named Resaca Blvd in Brownsville is quite nice too; lined with royal palms that tower over the canopy, there is a coconut in there too if you look hard enough :) 

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Meangreen94z
43 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

 

Wow, that is spectacular. An unbelievable price for California, even if it were impossible to access.

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Meangreen94z
46 minutes ago, Xenon said:

But (palm-wise) you'll regret living in San Benito :P San Benito/Harlingen = 9b.  10-15 miles south or east of San Benito is 10a.  Personally, I'm partial to a resaca front lot in Bayview. This stretch of the aptly named Resaca Blvd in Brownsville is quite nice too; lined with royal palms that tower over the canopy, there is a coconut in there too if you look hard enough :) 

Yes, I love the area. My wife doesn’t get it, although she does like South Padre Island. I could make a vacation out of just driving around and looking at people yards down there. Maybe not high dollar California/Florida selection, but they have their own unique mix of tropical/xeric I really enjoy.

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dalmatiansoap

RGV stands for?

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waykoolplantz

I guess Rio Grande Valley

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Jeff985
9 minutes ago, waykoolplantz said:

I guess Rio Grande Valley

Correct 

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Meangreen94z
33 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

RGV stands for?

Yeah sorry, Rio Grande Valley, very South tip of Texas along the border with Mexico. Zone 9B/10a. There’s several former agricultural towns that have merged together into one area. So now most people from that area just call it “Rio Grande Valley”.

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AZPalms

I have a Decaryi here growing in Phoenix, is it my favorite? No, miles from it. But it looks perfect, takes the cold and heat, not a water hog. Different. In a sea of fan palms, Queens, cactus, rocks and brown, it’s a unique palm for the garden. 

Much akin to people’s home choices, car preference, residence local etc, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 

 

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Merlyn2220

I like Decaryi when they are young, and the persistent triangle shape does let you squooze one in where randomly oriented fronds could be a problem.  Say, up near a house like NickJames' place.  Out of the 130 palms in the ground, I have ONE Decaryi.  And I've moved it 3 times because I can't decide whether I actually like it or not.

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Stevetoad

Cant say Ive ever "hated"  a palm. D.decaryi is a nice palm when grown well and it has given us so many very cool hybrids. The only palms that I can say look bad are usually not the fault of the palm itself but more the fault of the grower.

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LJG
9 hours ago, greysrigging said:

I remember back in the day ( late 1980's ) when Triangle Palms were THE exotic / must have palm of choice for Darwin gardeners. ( this was before Foxtails took over that mantle ). Ruthlessly marketed by local nurserys and box stores. I bought in to the hype and planted a row on my verge. I thought they looked ok..... but of course with the passage of time ( and the dreaded wilt ) they've died off, still a few left that seem to thrive on neglect and not much care. I don't think in reality that they are entirely happy in my climate and I have seen nicer specimens at 32*S rather than my 12*S.
Mine produce viable seed ( irregularly ) and are 30 years old.
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Awesome. 

I’ve said it before. If Decaryi were super rare, it would be one of the most desirable palms around. Well grown ones are gorgeous and nothing else looks like them. 

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DoomsDave

i love them all!

Like my cats, I guess . . . .

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DoomsDave
1 hour ago, LJG said:

Awesome. 

I’ve said it before. If Decaryi were super rare, it would be one of the most desirable palms around. Well grown ones are gorgeous and nothing else looks like them. 

And, they're surprisingly tempermental, too.

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KentiaPalm

Beauty and ugly are in of the eye of the beholder.

nuff said

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sonoranfans

I have had both queens and D decaryi, now I have neither.  Queens need lots of water and fertilier and even when grown well, get more ratty looking with age.  I grew them very well in arizona, big effort copious fertilizer and even a manganese treatment(frizzletop) was necessary, but clay soil helped a lot.  Most needly palms I ever had.  Here in my area of florida they look like crap due to sandy soil, just awful.  When planted alongside royals or foxtails they look starved, chlorotic, and emaciated.  If you want a queen, buy a mule and you wont regret it!  triangles look better in the dry environment but they also get notbly uglier with age.  I had a young 10 gallon one, saw a bunch of ~20 year old ones at the tampa zoo and promptly gave it away.  

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sarasota alex

All palms are beautiful! Even Bactris brongniartii or Gaussia princeps, which are ugly, but still beatiful!

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Chester B
12 hours ago, greysrigging said:

I remember back in the day ( late 1980's ) when Triangle Palms were THE exotic / must have palm of choice for Darwin gardeners. ( this was before Foxtails took over that mantle ). Ruthlessly marketed by local nurserys and box stores. I bought in to the hype and planted a row on my verge. I thought they looked ok..... but of course with the passage of time ( and the dreaded wilt ) they've died off, still a few left that seem to thrive on neglect and not much care. I don't think in reality that they are entirely happy in my climate and I have seen nicer specimens at 32*S rather than my 12*S.
Mine produce viable seed ( irregularly ) and are 30 years old.
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When I look at those palms all I see is the Alien Facehugger

Image result for alien facehugger

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JLM

On the plus side, Sabal Palmettos look like dandelions!

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Tyrone

Any palm grown right looks good IMO. I never used to like Arenga pinnata because the only one I’d seen at that time was in a book and the picture was of a half dead one in the flowering phase. In reality these palms are beautiful.

Dypsis decaryi is a stunning palm grown right and they are not a palm for the humid tropics. They are a dry subtropical palm and I reckon look the best in Perth in Oz. Maybe Brisbane second. In Singapore they are skinny mould ridden runts.

Im not a fan of Washys, but in the wild in California they are stunning. They’re just way too common.

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GottmitAlex
2 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Im not a fan of Washys, but in the wild in California they are stunning.

I am in agreement with this.  

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