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Eric in Orlando
On 4/4/2019 at 12:43 PM, Jimbean said:

What about plumerias?  How big are they in Orlando?

I see some bigger plumeria around in the warmer areas, 6-9ft. Last winter tipped them back a a few inches. Ones in more open areas froze back further. I have a yellow,  probably 'Aztec Gold' at my house in Altamonte Springs about 7ft tall doing well. I have a white P. obtusa to plant out this year. They are a bit hardier than P. rubra types. 

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Eric in Orlando
On 4/4/2019 at 11:45 AM, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Are the Wodyetias at Epcot relatively new? I remember mostly queens around Spaceship Earth. 

Rhey have been there for maybe 5 years. There used to be queen palms around the fountain. As they are dying out they are being replaced with foxtails. 

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Eric in Orlando
On 4/4/2019 at 2:34 PM, Matthew92 said:

Those last 2 will probably have to be removed soon. The new spears are already pushing against and away from the building- I wonder what the thinking was putting them right under. Maybe when they first got planted there they didn't expect them to last that long.

I was out there yesterday morning for the Star Wars 5k and noticed the one closest to Spaceship Earth is touching it. They should have used Adonidia here. 

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Eric in Orlando

A large Ficus aurea at Epcot near the Living Seas. 

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Eric in Orlando

Ficus benjamina at Epcot next to China in the African market area. 

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palmsOrl

That F. benjamina truly is of a size you would see in the deep tropics.

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Jimbean
5 hours ago, palmsOrl said:

That F. benjamina truly is of a size you would see in the deep tropics.

I hate to burst your bubble but I see that all over Brevard, in areas that I would classify as 9B

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Jimbean
10 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

A large Ficus aurea at Epcot near the Living Seas. 

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Decent size, but not an indicator of a zone 10A.  I should post some picture of some ficuses here to show you what a big ficus looks like here.  I have seen Ficus aurea twice that size in 9B areas of Brevard.  I will have to admit though, those ficuses are impressive for Orange county. 

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RedRabbit
2 hours ago, Jimbean said:

I hate to burst your bubble but I see that all over Brevard, in areas that I would classify as 9B

I get the impression you're a little more conservative than average on zones. I can't point to any sizable f benjamina in parts of Tampa I believe is 9b.

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kinzyjr

How does the hardiness of Ficus benjamina compare with Ficus benghalensis?  Roughly the same?

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Eric in Orlando
1 hour ago, kinzyjr said:

How does the hardiness of Ficus benjamina compare with Ficus benghalensis?  Roughly the same?

F. benjamina is a little more tender than F. benghalensis. Winters like 2009-10 will cause limb dieback in F. benjamina but only foliage burn in F. benghalensis. 

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palmsOrl
16 hours ago, Jimbean said:

I hate to burst your bubble but I see that all over Brevard, in areas that I would classify as 9B

I would consider that to be a large F. benjamina if it were in Singapore.  They may get even much larger than that, but that is still a large tree.  Also, it will take a good number of more years of overall 10a winters to start getting truly massive tropical trees.  They will also get nipped back by freezes here and there, so that will slow down the process.  

Our average zone in Orlando using the past 30 years of data is 10a.  I believe most of this is the urban heat island effect and being in a warmer spot than many surrounding areas to begin with.  

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Eric in Orlando

Those Epcot Ficus trees have been there for around 25 years. 

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Eric in Orlando

Here is a Ficus altissima 'Variegata' growing in Winter Springs at the Black Hammock restaurant on the south side of Lake Jessup. Its been there at least 10 years but has started losing some variegation. It is behind a service fence so could only see part of the trunk. 

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RedRabbit
55 minutes ago, Eric in Orlando said:

Those Epcot Ficus trees have been there for around 25 years. 

If I’m not mistaken, there’s a big Ficus binnendijkii at Epcot too. That one is my favorite ficus in the park.

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Eric in Orlando
13 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

If I’m not mistaken, there’s a big Ficus binnendijkii at Epcot too. That one is my favorite ficus in the park.

Yes, it was in the jungle next to the Mexican pyramid. It was removed a couple years ago., not sure why. They also removed the big Ceiba pentandra recently.

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RedRabbit
11 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

Yes, it was in the jungle next to the Mexican pyramid. It was removed a couple years ago., not sure why. They also removed the big Ceiba pentandra recently.

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pj_orlando_z9b

Same photo, 2 yrs apart. Good growth overall. Bottle palms are very underrated. Great looking palm for a smaller footprint. 

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GottmitAlex
1 hour ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Same photo, 2 yrs apart. Good growth overall. Bottle palms are very underrated. Great looking palm for a smaller footprint. 

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I don't know why they would be underrated. Folks tend to do a doubletake on bottlepalms. 

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pj_orlando_z9b

@GottmitAlex I always do too. Striking alone but I like them best planted as a focal point of a landscape. They are just not as common as other z10 plants here, nurseries or box stores. 

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Eric in Orlando

Several dozen Roystonea regia planted at a gate entrance and lining a long driveway. Theae are in Winter Springs on the south side of Lake Jessup north of Oviedo. They do not appear to get irrigated or fertilized so aren't going to last long in that condition. 

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Eric in Orlando

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ck_in_fla

I am not familiar with those.  Are they also near Black Hammock?  The crowns do not appear to be very robust.  Perhaps they would benefit from supplemental feedings and irrigation...

I'm in Winter Springs off Tuskawilla Road, South of State Road 434.  Where are these in relation to my location?  Just wondering...

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Eric in Orlando

They are on Black Hammock Rd., go north and then it makes a sharp curve going east, towards the restaurant 

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Eric in Orlando

This Wodyetia is growing at a hotel near I4 and 436 in Altamonte Springs. It is in an open exposed, north facing loction. It has been there since 2009, maybe older. It saw about 25-26f in the 2009-10 winter, it was severely burned but came back. It also saw around 26-27f in Jan. 2018, mostly defoliated but also grew back. 

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Eric in Orlando

Not a palm; mature Spathodea campanulata, African Tulip Tree flowering in Winter Park near Mead Gardens. 

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pj_orlando_z9b

King Palm in Belle Isle. This one lost almost all fronds to the Jan 2018 freeze. It grew out faster than my coconut did. 

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pj_orlando_z9b

Night shot of my bottle palm. 

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palmsOrl
On 4/13/2019 at 10:17 PM, pj_orlando_z9b said:

King Palm in Belle Isle. This one lost almost all fronds to the Jan 2018 freeze. It grew out faster than my coconut did. 

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That’s amazing.  My roughly 10-12 ft. king palm barely had tip burn (virtually no damage) during the freezes of 2010.  I have no idea which variety it is, but it is still at my parent’s old house.  You can see the tall palms at the house, 620 E. Horatio Ave. Maitland, Fl 32751.

I saw two trunking and undamaged Cocos in the south facing front yard of a house near a north/south road just west of the Orlando Executive Airport.  I need to get a photo.

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pj_orlando_z9b
11 hours ago, palmsOrl said:

That’s amazing.  My roughly 10-12 ft. king palm barely had tip burn (virtually no damage) during the freezes of 2010.  I have no idea which variety it is, but it is still at my parent’s old house.  You can see the tall palms at the house, 620 E. Horatio Ave. Maitland, Fl 32751.

I saw two trunking and undamaged Cocos in the south facing front yard of a house near a north/south road just west of the Orlando Executive Airport.  I need to get a photo.

Nice! I'm not sure which variety King this one is. I'm glad it recovered. I've been watching those coconuts for a couple years. They are under a canopy so have a little natural protection. They are young but had no damage from the freeze. Great siting!

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Merlyn

I stopped by the Hindu Center and took a look at the two Coconuts they have on the side street:

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They both look pretty decent, though there's definitely some cold damage that they are growing out of.  Neither are getting irrigation or fertilization that I can see, but both are pushing a pretty decent looking spear that should open soon.  Neither were in great nutritional health back in October-November, so some of the yellowing on the leaflets is just lack of fertilizer.

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pj_orlando_z9b

Those definitely need fertilized and irrigated!

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Jimbean

This is impressive for Orlando but not for 9B areas of Brevard.  

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pj_orlando_z9b

Palms in the rain always look great.

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Eric in Orlando

Here is a Wodyetia in a cold pocket. It is along 434 by Bear Lake Rd. in the Lockhart area. I have watched it for a few years after it became visible above the 10ft wall. It was defoliated in the 2017-18 winter but grew back and is now fruiting. 

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Eric in Orlando

Another Wodyetia in a cold spot of the Bear Lake /Lockhart area. 

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pj_orlando_z9b

Was on Lake Conway today. Found some large coconuts, kings, and royals lake front. 

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Eric in Orlando

Great find! 

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palmsOrl
37 minutes ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Was on Lake Conway today. Found some large coconuts, kings, and royals lake front. 

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The most impressive for the Orlando area so far.  I think I see a triple Veitchia in the second to last photo.  That’s a zone 10 if I’ve ever seen one.

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RedRabbit
1 hour ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Was on Lake Conway today. Found some large coconuts, kings, and royals lake front. 

Wow, those coconuts look pre-2010. I wonder if they’ve been there the whole time or if they were large when they went in. 

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