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I've been having an e-conversation with @JubaeaMan138 about Attaleas - I have three species - and he asked me to post photos of them. All of these palms will eventually trunk but I may not live to see that. They are surprisingly slow growing even during my long, sweltering summers. They are fairly cold sensitive but as long as their growing points remain below ground they should suffer only cosmetic damage during winter. I wish this genus was more popular with palm lovers but understand most species get quite large for small yards.

1) Attalea butyracea - I have 2 of these and this is the smaller/younger one on my Garden Lot. The petioles have a speckled "mealybug" look

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Attalea cohune - I was given this by a palm lover who had no room to plant it

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Attalea phalerata

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Alberto

Nice palms

. Probably after forming a trunk they will grow faster

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Ricigliano

I'm definitely not a expert on Attalea. Your 2 first palms look identical to my Attalea speciosa. Attalea speciosa almost always germinate multiple plants from the same seed. I got 4 seedlings from 1 seed before. My butyracea has green petiols and are a little wider plant when young. I hope this helps 

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PalmatierMeg
1 hour ago, Ricigliano said:

I'm definitely not a expert on Attalea. Your 2 first palms look identical to my Attalea speciosa. Attalea speciosa almost always germinate multiple plants from the same seed. I got 4 seedlings from 1 seed before. My butyracea has green petiols and are a little wider plant when young. I hope this helps 

Anything is possible. I'm no Attalea expert either. The first palm grew from seeds I collected from a palm park in Ft. Myers. The mother was plaqued "Attalea butyracea" and was huge. But I found hinky IDs among other palms there. The seeds were the size of my fist. The A. cohune was given to me by a local palm seller so I have only his word as to ID.

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redant

I have 3 as well, they are super slow but that's fine as they are monsters. this ones maybe 7 or so years in the ground from a 3 gal pot, no trunk.

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JubaeaMan138

Beautiful attaleas!! So speciosa has the mealy markings?

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Palm Tree Jim
2 hours ago, redant said:

I have 3 as well, they are super slow but that's fine as they are monsters. this ones maybe 7 or so years in the ground from a 3 gal pot, no trunk.

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Awesome!

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Palm Tree Jim

There is a garden in Southern California that has a cohune that has done great.

Maybe Jason can chime in here and share a picture.

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jimmyt

Those are some great looking palms people.    Great growing

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Hilo Jason
14 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

There is a garden in Southern California that has a cohune that has done great.

Maybe Jason can chime in here and share a picture.

I have Attalea Geraensis in my Fallbrook garden. Or at least that's what the tag said when I bought it. 

I was in California 2 weeks ago and visited that garden (we are renting that house out). I couldn't get a good pic of the attalea due to it being too crammed with other palms and the sun being in the worst spot. But here's the base. I would guess the leaves are 20' tall now!

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Palm Tree Jim
9 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

I have Attalea Geraensis in my Fallbrook garden. Or at least that's what the tag said when I bought it. 

I was in California 2 weeks ago and visited that garden (we are renting that house out). I couldn't get a good pic of the attalea due to it being too crammed with other palms and the sun being in the worst spot. But here's the base. I would guess the leaves are 20' tall now!

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Sorry about the wrong ID.

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mike in kurtistown

This topic stimulated my interest to the point that I went out and took some pictures this morning of the five species that I am growing on my 8 acres in east Hawaii Island, The 5-gal orange bucket provides scale.

First is Attalea cohune. Seed picked up in Belize, no ID problems. Note the long, straight regularly arranged leaves up to the end of the leaf. Pl;anted from 2-gal pot in July 2012.

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Here is Attalea phalerata. Planted from 2-gal pot in May 2013. Leaves plumose, leaflets curved and drooping.

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Here is Attalea butyracea, planted from 2-gal pot in June 2015. Leaflets still regularly arranged at this stage, with bifid terminal leaflets. Id from signage in garden in Kauai.

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Here is Attalea maripa. Seeds collected in Trinidad by a palm collector who divides his time between Brevard County and Puerto Rico. Seeds took years to germinate, one took five years. Plumose leaves. Planted from 2-gal pots in March 2015. 

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Finally, this was called Attalea guacayule by the late Al Bredeson who gave me seeds from trees in his garden in Kona, west Hawaii. From 2-gal pots in February 2016. Looks a lot like cohune

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From the pictures in previous posts, the cohune looks right, but not sure about the others.

 

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realarch

Some nice photos folks!

Mike, you need a herd of goats!

Here are a few more photos.

First three are A. phalerata, exceedingly fast and the last is A cohune, which is painfully slow.

Tim

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Hilo Jason
13 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Sorry about the wrong ID.

No worries. I'm not sure the ID that it came with is even right. Doesn't really look like the pics on palmpedia of Geraensis. 

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