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A few 9a North Florida Rarities (for me)

Kailua_Krish

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Mine are under canopy and small but haven't had a problem so far! The Ceratozamias do very well under dense oak canopy. Anyways I only get to see all my plants roughly once a year now because I moved to Hawaii. The plants are all still at my family's place in Florida.

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Krishna, it looks as though you tied a rope around your bamboo (bambusa chungii?).  Was that to prevent drooping/weeping?  Does it work?

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Hmm, not sure which picture has it. The bamboo doesn't really need a rope around it, once its in ground for 2 seasons the new canes are all erect.

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Dropped home for a quick visit from Hawaii. Im still here for another day so if any other plants you want to see let me know!

Parajubaea sunkha (really starting to put on some size)

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Jubaea x Syagrus

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Tim Hopper Jubutyagrus

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Dypsis decipiens

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BxP with Bizmarkia and BxS in background

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Arenga micrantha and Kerriodoxa

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Wow, the Tim Hopper Jubutiagrus takes the prize.

I am surprised that the Butia x Parajubaea isn't bigger.  I don't have one, but I keep hearing that they grow like wildfire as soon as you drop them into the ground.

Now that you're surrounded by giant Hawaiian Tall coconuts, you must be "so done" with Ocala.  

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I might be the odd one out but Im over coconuts, they're worse than queens with being planted everywhere in the tropics and half the time looking terrible. I actually have a yard in Hawaii but I miss the challenges of growing on the edge of hardiness. I might say I miss Ocala some...

 

Anyways My BxP had a hard time getting started. It lost its spear every year for the first 3 years. Then it did really well once it grew a bit. Its picked up speed a lot.

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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On 2/11/2016, 4:32:41, krishnaraoji88 said:

I might be the odd one out but Im over coconuts, they're worse than queens with being planted everywhere in the tropics and half the time looking terrible. I actually have a yard in Hawaii but I miss the challenges of growing on the edge of hardiness. I might say I miss Ocala some...

 

Anyways My BxP had a hard time getting started. It lost its spear every year for the first 3 years. Then it did really well once it grew a bit. Its picked up speed a lot.

Great looking hybrids!

 

Sometimes I miss being able to grow almost anything. Like when I lived in San Diego, but I enjoy "pushing the envelope" here at 2500 ft. altitude in the Sonoran desert. Like you, I enjoy the challenge.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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That JxS is looking great....looks like it holds its leaves in a single plane like Jubaea? Is the base getting fat?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Actually just looked again....not totally in a plane....could you take some more pics of that one with something for scale....thanks

 

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Not sure if you're still around, but if you're taking requests, I'd like to see the Brahea clara, Allagoptera leucocalyx, and maybe some Ceratozamias, since I'm looking at planting some of these soon.

If not, I'll have to wait until next year. I love what you've done with the place!

Woodville, FL

zone 8b

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Already back in Hawaii, though I can't be too sad about that :P

The Jubaea x Syagrus leaves don't grow completely in one plane, its almost like its trying to be plumose towards the bases. 

Redbeard, I would say go for the A. leucocalyx and ceratozamias, these pretty much always look good. The claras grow much too slow in Florida to be of any real ornamental value.

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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2 hours ago, krishnaraoji88 said:

Already back in Hawaii, though I can't be too sad about that :P

The Jubaea x Syagrus leaves don't grow completely in one plane, its almost like its trying to be plumose towards the bases. 

Redbeard, I would say go for the A. leucocalyx and ceratozamias, these pretty much always look good. The claras grow much too slow in Florida to be of any real ornamental value.

My Brahea clara is the 'icy blue' variant, and the guy who grew it said it was very fast, as I recall, so I have some hope it will perform for me. My main worry with the Allagoptera is cold damage. I'm going to plant it anyway as an experiment.

Woodville, FL

zone 8b

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Mine were "Icy Blue" too. Don't expect much...

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Mine were "Icy Blue" too. Don't expect much...

Darn. Well, thanks for the info.

Woodville, FL

zone 8b

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Agree that the hopper jubuyagrus wins it's awesome and seems like it will have a somewhat lean trunk

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It's interesting how slow JxS seems in your location compared to California.  Maybe the "J" part of the equation protesting a bit?

That Jubutiagrus is off the hook though.  I guess Hopper did actually make a hybrid that took at some stage!

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On 2/20/2016, 1:01:48, krishnaraoji88 said:

Already back in Hawaii, though I can't be too sad about that :P

The Jubaea x Syagrus leaves don't grow completely in one plane, its almost like its trying to be plumose towards the bases. 

Redbeard, I would say go for the A. leucocalyx and ceratozamias, these pretty much always look good. The claras grow much too slow in Florida to be of any real ornamental value.

Krishna,

My B. claras, while not rocket ships, have been steady growers for me.  A little faster than an average sabal.  B. armata on the other hand.... is one of my slowest palms.

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Hopper Jubutiagarus .....fast

Brahea clara ...... steady

Happy with both

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Tim Hopper Jubutyagrus is a truly spectacular palm.

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Keith....do you think it is truly a Jubutiagarus and not just a mule? .... I know we have had long threads concerning the JXB mother of this plant....do have a pic of yours? A lot bigger?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Hmm, I wonder why mine aren't growing a fast. Mine were definitely sprouted as seeds of icy blue.

For the JxS the slowest part of its growth was as a small seedling. It detested our raining + freezing during the winter and I got spear pull every year for 3 years. Its picked up speed since then. 

As far as the Tim Hopper hybrid it grows well and looks slightly different than my mules. Whether it is a true jubutyagrus or not I couldn't tell you but I bought it as one

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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