New Dypsis and other unseen species

[ariscott]

Hi Ari,

Well you can not have the best of both worlds Ari, your palms grow much faster than our ones down here and your mulch brakes down much faster than what it would down here, but I do put it down very thick remember..!

Ps i would not mind if my palms grew as fast as they did in Cairns but i don’t think i could afford such a large garden or keep up with all the weeding!!

All the best Ari.

True... Clayton. But it is annoying that by the time we finish mulching everything... (and yes, I do mulch the plants very thick too), it is time to start again... It is a lot of work, especially since we keep on extending garden beds... Last year we used 150 bales plus 4 truck loads of bark mulch... this year, I don't really want to think about it.

Regards, Ari

[Carlo Morici]

Nice start for 2009, Clayton. Nice Dypsis species, quite unknown to me!

Carlo

[ariscott]

More Clayton??

Regards, Ari

[Utopia Palms]

Ok here are a few more Ari..!

Dypsis thiryana,

From the photos it seems like only the younger plants seem to be regularly pinnate and as they mature they start to group there leaflets with small intervals/spacing between these groups of leaflets, in some locality’s there are many of these palms growing in large colony’s.

Here are a few photos’ of one form, which I think to be the one described in palms of Madagascar.

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And now here are a few more photos of Dypsis thiryana from a different locality that looks a "little" similar to Dypsis trapezoidea but clumping also note the inflorescences in that it has long rachilla, but from what John has said he thinks it’s still Dypsis thiryana.

This one seems to have very fine leaves, and even the young seedlings look different to the normal form.

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And now one more form from another locality, which John has said, is a New species and is being described at the moment and with any luck we should have a Name for this species by the end of the year…!

This one has quite broad leaves.

This species was sold as Dypsis sp thiryana broad leaf form for those that received seeds.

I will list some more new species and photos soon.

Regards,

Clayton.

[rthink]

wow....I always want to see Dypsis thiryana pictures!... Thanks a million, Clayton

Several leaf forms of Dypsis thiryana remind me of Pinanga subintegra. P. subintegra is also the same size and share many characteristics with D.thiryana. Both are very nice palms. Does D.thiryana also have new red leaf?

[Walter John]

So many short interesting Dypsis. Thanks Clayton.

[Utopia Palms]

Ok Here are some more great photos..!

Here is a form of what I think to be Dypsis “catatiana” this species seems to have quite a few different forms even in the same locality you can see two different forms growing together, this form looks very similar to Dypsis simianensis, (I must say this is a very nice form) but as you can see the inflorescence looks too short..? And the leaf also looks like it’s too deeply cut to be Dypsis simianensis..? Also the seed shape of this species is more like a Dypsis catatiana form than Dypsis simianensis but both seeds are quite simular to each other from what I can gather, simianensis seed is more rounded at the ends where catatiana seeds comes to a point at one end, but it’s still very hard to tell!!

As this species has so many different localities each locality can have a different form I think a more appropriate name of this species should have been Dypsis variabilis, although there seems to be quite a few of these Dypsis that can have more than one form and look like another species.

A good example of this is Dypsis bosseri this species can also look like a few other species as well, I will list some photos of a few different forms of these after these habitat photos of mine.

I will also list few more forms of Dypsis catatiana from Philip's photos from his Madagascar trip with John after this post.

For those that received seeds of this species as Dypsis catatiana there was another species mixed in with this seed unfortunately the seed was identical so there was no way of telling that there was this second species in with this seed and I have only just found out that the two species were mixed in under the same name (Dypsis catatiana). The good news is that it looks like this other species is possibly a New species..!

It’s simular to Dypsis tenuissima but looks to be a slightly larger form, and is slightly different in it’s appearance, I’m still waiting to hear back from John on what he thinks about this species.

So here are the photos of what I think is possibly a Dypsis catatiana form and for those that received seed of this species, please note that the seedlings look like they have a bluish tinge to them to tell the difference between this one compared to the other species.

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And here are some photos of this other species (possibly a New species) This species has stems about 4mm in diameter, I will include a photo of a seedling, which might also help you pick the different between this species and the Dypsis sp catatiana form when they are seedlings.

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And here are Some Photos from Philip Arrowsmith from his trip to Madagascar with John Dransfield; these photos are of a few other Dypsis catatiana forms.

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I should also list a few photos of Dypsis tenuissima for those that are not familiar with this species; these are also some of Philip’s photos.

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Dypsis sp..?

This is an entire leaf Dypsis and although the photos do not show it these plants are bluish in colour, I have some seedlings here in the nursery that I will list some photos of that might show this colour a little better, this species grows to around 3m tall and holds these entire bifid leaves that do not seem to have much of notch/cut in the leaf making the leaf near entire. This looks also possibly to be a New species.? The seed has a homogenous endosperm.

Here are some habitat photos first then some cultivated photos of some seedlings, which almost look like some sort of Chamaedorea palm, so maybe Dypsis chamaedorea would be a good name for this species..? As many people have mistaken these for Chamaedorea palms in the nursery. The colour of this species is simular to that of Chamaedorea sullivanorum even the seedling look simular.

[ariscott]

It is amazing... some of them don't even look like dypsis... I like the last one VERY MUCH!!

Regards, Ari

[Utopia Palms]

And here are some seedlings.

More photos soon.. I hope you like them.

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Great photo's, very informative

thanks Clayton

Colin

[BS Man about Palms]

WOW!

This is the tropical/habitat version of Phil's ongoing palm education thread. I love it! Thanks Clayton! (and Mikey-hope you feel better)

[Walter John]

My Dypsis sp hovitrendrina have new leaves. Show and tell..

[Utopia Palms]

Wal that’s going to look quite amazing in years to come with 6 of those species in a clump, should be interesting…

Ok I will give the Dypsis a little break for some photos of a few other Rare species this first one is a very rare Areca from Borneo called Areca ahmadii.

[ariscott]

I wonder whether Ahmad found them....

Seriously... it is a nice little one too...

Regards, Ari

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Pinanga jambusana. From Borneo.

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Pinanga limosa. From Borneo.

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Pinanga mirabilis. From Borneo.

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Licuala sp “pre ati” From Irian Jaya

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Lavoixia macrocarpa this photo was taken in June 96 New Cal,

Now Clinosperma macrocarpa

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Geonoma Tomandua.

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Iguanura ambigua.

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And one more for the night, Licuala sallyehana if you received seeds of these last year they should be germinating around now just over 12 months.

[BS Man about Palms]

:) :D

[bgl]

Clayton,

Lots of unusual and spectacular palms! Thanks for posting the photos. Really enjoyed them!

Bo-Göran

[Utopia Palms]

I’m Glad you all like the photos, here are a few more some of these have been listed before but they are worth listing again, of some seldom seen species..

Areca laosensis. This one is quite a rare species.!!

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How about some licuala species now the first one is,

Licuala terengganuensis.

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Licuala ferruginea.

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Licuala fractiflexa.

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Licuala kemamanensis.

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Licuala khoonmengii.

[rthink]

Thanks Clayton!

I'm sitting on a front row now... please post many more

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Licuala sp "mustapana".

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Hi Khun Think, yes there are a few more to come i hope you like them,

This one is Licuala Valdida.

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Licuala sp "fantasia".