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Bonsai palms in pots

Gileno Machado

By Gileno Machado
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Gileno Machado

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Please add pictures (and opinions) of palms grown in pots, including oversized ones. They`re being grown extensively here in Brazil now and usually employed in open patios and terrace landscape, near pools. How about a super dwarf Cocos nucifera, grown in captivity?

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Gileno Machado Grand Master

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Midsize Cycads (Cycas revoluta) don`t seem to need so much space for the roots and probably require less maintenance:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Please add pictures (and opinions) of palms grown in pots, including oversized ones. They`re being grown extensively here in Brazil now and usually employed in open patios and terrace landscape, near pools. How about a super dwarf Cocos nucifera, grown in captivity?

Hi Gileno, How are you my friend, In my view Thats how I'd grow a coconut

here in the tropic's we see heaps of ya normal old coconut, Now a bonsai

one..... Now thats Cool..

Best wishes Mikey. :)

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M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

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Do they remain small by just the under-potting, or is root-pruning being done also?

Most palms are so slow here and I need a canopy, so I can't imagine intentionally inhibiting growth like that.

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Hmm.

Gileno, this is one of those epic discussions.

I wish I had the luxury of torturing coconuts as happily as you guys do. (We do it unhappily!)

Or Lipsick palms. Or playing our guitars at 4:30 in the morning sunrise, year-round.

BUT!

It is what it is.

Some palms take being tortured in small pots for a long time very well. Smaller, slower-growing species.

On the other hand, I've had big, fast mamas get tortured (in small pots) then get liberated (in the ground) and they just grow like Mongo in the Congo, playing bongos . . . .

Hmm.

Gotta think some more.

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Gileno Machado Grand Master

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Please add pictures (and opinions) of palms grown in pots, including oversized ones. They`re being grown extensively here in Brazil now and usually employed in open patios and terrace landscape, near pools. How about a super dwarf Cocos nucifera, grown in captivity?

Hi Gileno, How are you my friend, In my view Thats how I'd grow a coconut

here in the tropic's we see heaps of ya normal old coconut, Now a bonsai

one..... Now thats Cool..

Best wishes Mikey. :)

Hi Mikey, we've missed you here, very glad to see you back. How are the beautiful palms in your garden doing? Can`t wait to see your pictures...

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Do they remain small by just the under-potting, or is root-pruning being done also?

Most palms are so slow here and I need a canopy, so I can't imagine intentionally inhibiting growth like that.

Hi Terry,

I`ll have to take pictures of some of my oldest palms in pots, like fruiting Pinangas and very tall Ptychospermas. I guess in the case of these coconuts at the hotel in Rio, root pruning is a must...not so natural, isn`t it?

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Hmm.

Gileno, this is one of those epic discussions.

I wish I had the luxury of torturing coconuts as happily as you guys do. (We do it unhappily!)

Or Lipsick palms. Or playing our guitars at 4:30 in the morning sunrise, year-round.

BUT!

It is what it is.

Some palms take being tortured in small pots for a long time very well. Smaller, slower-growing species.

On the other hand, I've had big, fast mamas get tortured (in small pots) then get liberated (in the ground) and they just grow like Mongo in the Congo, playing bongos . . . .

Hmm.

Gotta think some more.

Hi Dave,

Do you think most palms resume growth rate back to normal once they get to the ground after a long torture? Some of my Phoenix roebellenii don`t seem to stunt after the potting age but bigger palms like Sabal, Latania and Butias won`t probably grow to their full potential after long term bonsai`d, what do you think?

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Gileno:

Good great, wonderful question.

Have to think . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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I do know that for me palms planted in pots, even 25 gallon pots, are not as large as pics i see on here for the same species, same age that are planted in the ground. Not surprising. I don't want mine to get too large; the forecast is 23F for tomorrow night, with all plants inside. I don't want to have to bring in 100 huge plants, the smaller pots are enough work. So I would say mine are somewhat stunted, or at least grow slower. Of course, my climate with decreased growth in the winter may be part of the slow growth, also.

You have an interesting question; I have only one small part of an answer.

Gig 'Em Ags!

 

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Cruelty to palms ? :(

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Bonsai...

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Cheers,

Adrian

... on the other square, to the left, it was elegantly engraved in capital letters: ALL THINGS MOVE TO THEIR END.

Adrian

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Bonsai...

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Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian,

Where was this picture taken?

I took the picture in India, Kerala province, in its southern part. There was a nursery there (dubbed "Botanical Garden") with a lot of palm trees and some cycads; for the rest, other "flowers". Quite a collection of bonsai too. Everything was of course "for sale". But these were the only palm bonsai.

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... on the other square, to the left, it was elegantly engraved in capital letters: ALL THINGS MOVE TO THEIR END.

Adrian

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Gileno Machado Grand Master

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Bonsai...

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Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian,

Where was this picture taken?

I took the picture in India, Kerala province, in its southern part. There was a nursery there (dubbed "Botanical Garden") with a lot of palm trees and some cycads; for the rest, other "flowers". Quite a collection of bonsai too. Everything was of course "for sale". But these were the only palm bonsai.

Gosh, less than 10 cm of dirt for a coconut...poor palm...

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Their are some nurseries down south that sell coccothrinax growing out of blocks of limestone. We have a small syagrus that has been growing in the crotch of our kagelia for years also see them growing out of oaks occasionally, natural bonsai.

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