Borassus Flabellifer in Murcia Spain

[MAUSER]

I put this post in Infojardín. Some will already know it.

http://www.infojardin.com/foro/showthread.php?t=59755

I believe that they are the only flabellifer planted in the land, at the moment, in the European continent.

Pictures of the progresses.

To the left, butia yatai silver waiting hybridization with syagrus.

to the left, some few small butiagrus born this year.

All have three leaves

Un saludo amigos.

Edited August 17, 2008 by MAUSER

[Kris]

Dear Mauser

hey those babies are really beautiful,and thanks for the stills as to know how they are progressing...

Is it cold in the nights in your place,if not remove the top shade cloth and allow these to experience the heat from the atmosphere..they will start growing faster.if not they will remain dawarf for a very long time...

they love full sunshine and good watering every alternate day...and if your near the coast,its even better !

By the way i must thank you for putting so much strain for these palms,and it seems it has paid... And iam glad these are growing in new lands...

All the best,

love,

Kris

[MAUSER]

Dear Kris

The nights are warm, about 23 ° C. I do not want to take away the shadow, because then come the winter and have little sun. I do not want accostomed for the moment of the sun, and then miss them. Now grow very fast and I do not want to do anything that disturbs. My father told me "If something works, do not change." Next year, it will be stronger and may take all the sun they want.

The drip irrigation, every day, an hour or two.

A greeting

[MAUSER]

That it was of all the seeds that Kris sent last year, to all the corners of the world?.

Pictures of this small Borassus, please.

Regards

[Kris]

Dear Mauser

Okay i understand your point...all the best !

love,

Kris

Shall we have some visuals of some matures specimens...which are estimated to be around 25 to 30 years old.and these are the stills of the standard form.As far as the big mama types its around one and half times bigger in trunk size,the leaves are more densely packed and the fruits are lot bigger like the........(Censored)

Here the stills are all of standard form :

And by the way 2 months back i was in manglore to attend a wedding function of my wife's cousion.and from manglore to perador.i.e around 65 kms.all the way on the highways i can see really tall species of this borassus.and i had the oppurtunity to see the big mama too.its nothing short of a mini corypha,And i must admit that even iam tempted to grow this jamboo in our gardens in chennai.

Let's see what tomarrow has to give me...

lots of love,

Kris

[MAUSER]

Dear Mauser

Okay i understand your point...all the best !

love,

Kris

Shall we have some visuals of some matures specimens...which are estimated to be around 25 to 30 years old.and these are the stills of the standard form.As far as the big mama types its around one and half times bigger in trunk size,the leaves are more densely packed and the fruits are lot bigger like the........(Censored)

Here the stills are all of standard form :

And by the way 2 months back i was in manglore to attend a wedding function of my wife's cousion.and from manglore to perador.i.e around 65 kms.all the way on the highways i can see really tall species of this borassus.and i had the oppurtunity to see the big mama too.its nothing short of a mini corypha,And i must admit that even iam tempted to grow this jamboo in our gardens in chennai.

Let's see what tomarrow has to give me...

lots of love,

Kris

Thank you Kris for the explanation.

It has always been said that the Borassus was very slow of growth, but for my experience I can say that are quick, very quick.

A greeting

[Tim McKernan]

I can offer some pics of mine grown in Miami. I planted it about 8 years ago as a 3 leaf sprout grown in a 20 gal. container.

[TikiRick]

Holy cow Tim....the color is a show stopper. There are so many palms I wish I HAD planted that I didn't and that Borassus would be one of them. Do they all have the red petioles?

[Tim McKernan]

Good question Rick. Kris?

[Tim McKernan]

I can tell you that the petiole is RAZOR sharp. It's like each little tooth is serrated (cerrated?)

[TikiRick]

And another stupid question, Tim or Kris....is Borassus a terminal palm? This is one genus that I am very unfamiliar with....but.....gorgeous!

[simona]

That is one beautiful palm! Thanks for posting those pics!

How big are the seeds, Kris?

[SubTropicRay]

Borassus are wonderful, cold hardy tropical palms.

[bubba]

Tim, That is a truly out of the ordinary color.I have seen a few Borassus in this area and never anything like that color.Any secrets?The Borassus I see here are usually always misplanted.I saw one the other day that looked like it was getting ready to eat a house.I think the person who planted it had no idea what he had unleashed.

[MAUSER]

I can offer some pics of mine grown in Miami. I planted it about 8 years ago as a 3 leaf sprout grown in a 20 gal. container.

Nice, wonders Palm. I look forward to that mine will look igual someday.

Thanks for the photos.

[Kris]

Dear Tim

Beautiful stills of a nicely grown palm...and as for as the colour goes,all the borassus,wheather standard variety or the big mama all have the same colour.

and as new leaves sprout the older onces get that colouration..eventually leading to gradual drying of the lower fronds.this is a normal phenomenan of this palm.

and the old dried fronds or cut off fronds will appear as jet black colour,and in some cases they have that orange colour patches here and there..

And Dear Rick..can you be bit eleborate as to what the term 'terminal'means ? since iam not that well versed in palm terminologies..if you are asking wheather its a monocarp.no it is not.Once established with hard shinning black trunk which appears in 15 to 20 years,the palm will have around 6 to 8 feet of trunk.then it will start fruting if it gets good heat & full summer sunshine.and it does not need a male & female species to form viable seeds either..

lots of love,

Kris

[hulagalnz9]

eight 8 years old and gorgeous!! Tim, I just added Borassus flabellifer to my dream list. Will it thrive in zone 9? Sign me up for your next shipment out of seeds Kris. ( am signing up to be a member asap.)

ahh...I aspire...one day

[FRITO]

Beautiful Palms Kris and Tim!

anyone have cold reports of this palm? similar to Bizmarkia?

[Kris]

Dear Buddy

Any updates on how these saplings are doing now ?

Love,

Kris

[MAUSER]

Dear Buddy

Any updates on how these saplings are doing now ?

Love,

Kris

Dear Kris

They are well and very healthy. The bigest already has 5 leafs and is green and strong. Now do not grow because it is winter. Are in a greenhouse built around them, with a minimum temperature of 11 º C.

Regards and happy new year

[FRITO]

Mauser,

can you show us an update of the palms seedlings!

I am about to germinate some of these!

[paulgila]

great stuff,mauser.how close did you plant em to each other?

[MAUSER]

Mauser,

can you show us an update of the palms seedlings!

I am about to germinate some of these!

Hello. The Borassus are fine. This afternoon (in Spain) I will put some photos to update.

Regards

[MAUSER]

great stuff,mauser.how close did you plant em to each other?

Hello.

They are close because I have many plants and little space ... They will learn to fend

Regards

[MAUSER]

I'll see if I get the same photographic frame for comparison.

[Kris]

He aquí una actualización! (here's an update !)

Un Close-Up ! (A Close-Up !)

Mucho amor, (Lots of love)

kris

Here's mine growing from last years harvest/(consignement) !

[Kris]

Some visuals of the B.F palm seeds ! And Mauser you & other friends are at liberty to use these still even in other forums.

Big mama seed

This seed is from fruits having white bottom,are marked with'W'

love,

kris

[Kris]

Here are few stills of the white bottomed B.F fruit ! Not too common to all the borassus flabifier palm trees..

Love,

kris

[MAUSER]

Here are the photos:

protection against the winter

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[Kris]

Dear Mauser

Nice visuals but each big mama palm tree needs at least 14 to 18 feet distance from one palm to another ? If they make it in your temperature they are all going to cramp up each other and would have stunted growth,even if they are given the best fertz avaliable !

Big mama's are very heavy sized palms on par with talipot palms.We here call them as minature talipot palms.So imagine how difficult it would be to trim them with all those spiny hook like fronds touching each other ?

All the best,

lots of love,

kris

[Carlo Morici]

Well done, Mauser!

Yours are not the only "Borassus made in Spain"

Tenerife, June 2009. This is the one from Kalas Stri, in Andhra Prasesh.

[paulgila]

that is a nice shelter you built,mauser.

the rest of the garden looks very nice,too!

[MAUSER]

Dear Mauser

Nice visuals but each big mama palm tree needs at least 14 to 18 feet distance from one palm to another ? If they make it in your temperature they are all going to cramp up each other and would have stunted growth,even if they are given the best fertz avaliable !

Big mama's are very heavy sized palms on par with talipot palms.We here call them as minature talipot palms.So imagine how difficult it would be to trim them with all those spiny hook like fronds touching each other ?

All the best,

lots of love,

kris

Dear Kris

The lack of space is the one that gives the orders. Fodder that when the trunks grow and they touch they were looking for his way.

It is like the Wasinghtonias, I have trioes and some are born bigger and other thin mas, acquire different sizes of trunk and speeds of growth.

The good thing is that in winter be protected some to others.

I like this photo. Here the trunks will be fatter for the slowness of growth.

Regards

Edited October 23, 2009 by MAUSER

[MAUSER]

Well done, Mauser!

Yours are not the only "Borassus made in Spain"

Tenerife, June 2009. This is the one from Kalas Stri, in Andhra Prasesh.

Carlo

I do not know others B. flabellifer in the peninsula ... is it true?.

In Spain, if I do not remember badly, all the plants that they were born of Kris's seeds, I believe that they died. Only stays mine and those of the Palmetum of Tenerife.

My zone is 9b - 10a, because of it it has his merit that they continue alive more than one year already.

A ver si pronto me doy una vuelta por Tenerife.

Un saludo

[MAUSER]

that is a nice shelter you built,mauser.

the rest of the garden looks very nice,too!

Thanks, you are very nice.

[John in Andalucia]

Carlo

I do not know others B. flabellifer in the peninsula ... is it true?.

In Spain, if I do not remember badly, all the plants that they were born of Kris's seeds, I believe that they died. Only stays mine and those of the Palmetum of Tenerife.

My zone is 9b - 10a, because of it it has his merit that they continue alive more than one year already.

A ver si pronto me doy una vuelta por Tenerife.

Un saludo

Mauser, I have a couple of B. flabellifer from Kris also. The first leaf is just emerging, so it's still early days.