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Unwanted Lodoicea maldivica

cagary

By cagary
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cagary

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Over on the GardenWeb someone posted a message that said a neighbor wants to get rid of the six year old 15 foot tall Lodoicea maldivica growing in his yard. The bad news for most of us is that its in Thailand.

Is there anyone in Thailand that posts here that would be interested in digging it up and planting it in their yard?

Aren't they just as rare in Thailand as anywhere else? Is this guy crazy or what? What would a palm like this be worth?

The guy seems serious and seems to be quite sure its a Lodoicea maldivica.

Tad Grand Master

Tad

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(PiousPalms @ Jan. 21 2008,17:43)

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If it is for real, it would be worth a trip to Thailand.

gonna check that in your carry on william?

Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.

Abraham Lincoln

The way of the transgressor is hard

Zac in NC Veteran

Zac in NC

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I don't think it would move very well. I know those things have huge taproots. Who would plant something that valuable and then decide 6 years and 15 feet tall later that they didn't want it?

Zac

Zac  

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International Palm Society member since 2007

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bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Zac,

I'm sure you're correct. I've heard that they are next to impossible to move because of the taproot. But then again, makes you wonder how many people have actually attempted to move a Lodoicea - successfully or not!

Nong Nooch Botanical Garden in Thailand has an interesting way of "moving" Lodoiceas. They may not necessarily know where they're going to be planted when germination takes place, so they germinate the seeds in very large wooden containers. Then several years later when they have a good sized palm they put the entire wooden box in the hole (after first removing the bottom of the box), and then of course it's easy to simply remove the sides and backfill with soil.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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It a shame that if this is the case, the odds are zero to nil probably of living. But if it has to be dug, I hope someone takes the time and thought on trying to be as careful as possible. It's an uphill battle all the way.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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I hear people say that some palms have "tap roots'. This is not true. Yes some palms have remote germination and have a system for burring the gern deep to provive stability for the young palm. When these palms get old they put out roots from the base of the trunk that contiually rise up the trunk untill only the center of the originaly deep trunk is burried.

I have tried to move a young Lodoicea in a real tricky spot, had to be moved. It did not have any roots that were "tap" like. All the roots were the same. Not many of them, like a young Copernicia, but none that were noticeably different.

It is important to know that many young palms have such a small number of very long roots and that transplanting them is a nightmare. Sometimes they do well and others times death is instant. A 15' Lodoicea is a young palm and I would bet that without at least a year of operating a little at a time it would die.

It would be fun to contact the person with the palm and see some pictures here. Even a story about weather it lives and how it was moved.

Bo, The system of removing the bottom of a pot, planting it and then removing the sides is an excellent one and can be used for many kinds of tricky young palms and can be used with any kind of pot that can be cut. I do it all the time with Copernicia. I like to slit the side of a plastic pot after cutting off the bottom. Then I place the potted palm in the hole and backfill BEFORE I remove the pot. This way the soil will hold the roots and old soil in the same position they were in in the pot. Presto ... no root disturbance.

I DIG PALMS

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NewCo Newbie

NewCo

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Um....... Don't forget the hoe if you like to visit them  :P

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Supakitt T.

BKK Thailand

cagary Proficient

cagary

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Here's some photos. Looks like the real thing. What a waste to kill it trying to move the poor thing!

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PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

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Before a spade touches the ground around the palm, the owner should have his head examined. This guy has to be nuts. If the palm is interfering with other plants, then THEY should be removed. This has to be a first. This is a good example of money over brains. Does this guy have no respect for the rarity of the palm? I would think the prospects of a sucessful transplant are nill.

Most likely this is a sham. Who would go to the time, the trouble, to spend a lot of money on a double coconut, only to want to remove it 6 years later?

The only reason I can think of is if the real estate is very valuable, and an offer was made that the guy can't refuse. Still sounds like a sham to me.

Dick

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Matt in SD Veteran

Matt in SD

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That's sick.  Maybe it's just me, but if I moved into a house and someone had planted a Lodoicea too close to the house...I'd move the house.  How could any sane person kill that.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

www.dadluvsu.com Grand Master

www.dadluvsu.com

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i think it would be worth digging a 12' diameter ball...  not sure how to move it...  maybe just call ken :P

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Palmy Experienced

Palmy

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Anybody with an untrained eye would just think its another palm like a washingtongia robusta.

Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science

Zac in NC Veteran

Zac in NC

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(Matt in SD @ Jan. 28 2008,19:36)

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That's sick.  Maybe it's just me, but if I moved into a house and someone had planted a Lodoicea too close to the house...I'd move the house.  How could any sane person kill that.

Matt

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

deezpalms Grand Master

deezpalms

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Hopefully it somehow survives the transplant!! I can't imagine a worse palm to kill as rare as this guy is  :angry:

Dave Hughson

Carlsbad, Ca

1 mile from ocean

Zone 10b

Palm freaks are good peeps!!!!!

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Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Before a spade touches the ground around the palm, the owner should have his head examined. This guy has to be nuts.

Dick

Well Said !

i can see there are lots of unwanted plants around that place,why does that idoit wants to remove this one...?

I am told global warming is increasingly affecting snow filled glaciers but now i feel it does have some effect on layman's brain too.. :angry:

God save the world...!

Kris.

love conquers all..

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surferjr Experienced

surferjr

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Over on the GardenWeb someone posted a message that said a neighbor wants to get rid of the six year old 15 foot tall Lodoicea maldivica growing in his yard. The bad news for most of us is that its in Thailand.

Is there anyone in Thailand that posts here that would be interested in digging it up and planting it in their yard?

Aren't they just as rare in Thailand as anywhere else? Is this guy crazy or what? What would a palm like this be worth?

The guy seems serious and seems to be quite sure its a Lodoicea maldivica.

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