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#1 Tyrone

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 03:23 PM

I've been using horse manure for a while with good results, but when speaking to others they say there is very little in it. Who's using it and what do people think of it compared to chicken, sheep and cow manures for example. As I live on deep sandy soils with nothing in them, I'm always looking at ways to keep the soil built up and alive.

So what do you reckon, horse manure is good or bad and why?

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#2 brodklop

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 03:41 PM

I've used horse manure for years with no bad effects.

Others have said it releases more nitrogen that other manures which is good for palms.

So when you are on a good thing stick to it.

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#3 Walter John

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 04:18 PM

I began my main palm garden area using horse manure and sugar can mulch. The results were a huge thumbs up. A couple of years after I switched to sheep manure. The downside to using horse manure though is that you may get various weed seeds depending on whether the collection from "trigger" and "silver" was from the stable or the paddock.
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#4 Jerry@TreeZoo

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 04:25 PM

I did a comparison years ago, between potting soil and horse stable compost. There was a large horse track close by and you could get all the manure compost you wanted for the cost of trucking it. It was made up from quite a bit of sawdust as well as manure and the racetrack swore it was composted for a year. I doubt that though. The compost always produced smaller and yellower plants as the compost used up a good bit of the fert in its further composting.

I don't know how much (if any) sawdust is in your manure but in any case your manure must be composted completely or will rob nitrogen from the soil. If you have pure sand, any composted manure at all will be an improvement so use what you got.

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 05:46 PM

There is nothing wrong with horse manure. It actually will give your plants more nitrogen if its fresh. Sawdust will lock up the nitrogen for a while. Chicken manure is the most fertile manure.
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#6 Gan Eden

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 06:14 PM

Is horse manure that much different from cow manure?
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#7 Moose

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:06 PM

Use elephant dung for Borassus, they love it! :drool:

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:29 PM

Manure, it's all good. Actually, as far as manure goes, I hear Horse Manure is among the best. Cow manure has too many weed seeds, and chicken poop is too hot and may burn. Now, things in the manure, like sawdust changes the metric. It is always best, no matter what the manure, to compost it before using which allows the tempering of the good and the bad.

I can tell you that my mother-in-law uses manures in her beds as opposed to commercial fertilizers, and they are always fabulous.
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#9 Daryl

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 12:56 AM

I really don't know if I could sleep in a bed with manure in it.... :mrlooney:
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 04:54 AM

Tyrone,

When I first planted my garden 30 years ago, I faithfully sought out "Stable Litter" (as it was called then) to topdress my garden. I never had a problem with it. The stables I got it would throw down redwood shavings below the horses and scoop this up every day or two. The stables didn't really know what to do with it, so it was near free to obtain. I'd try to obtain more aged material when possible. I'd apply about a 2 inch layers throughout the garden. If it appeared to be too fresh, I'd supplement it with some slow release fertilzier or blood meal thrown down with the stable litter. Over three to six months it would break down and go into the soil. Then I'd do it again. If the litter had too much staw in it, it might look a bit shabby. But, that too would break down. Jim Wright and other San Diego growers did the same thing with stable litter in thier gardens. But as the urbran sprawled away from us, it got harder to obtain so I went with straight nitrolized fir shavings. Some soil companies use a bit of chicken manure in their soil preparations. Steer is typically to strong.

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