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I don't know what I was expecting but I wasn't expecting shawii to look/grow the way it does. Grows tall & holds on to basically all its leaves to the base. Some we're close to 5 feet tall! Took a scroll around Cabrillo state park in Point Loma, San Diego. 

Agave shawii var. shawii 

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Ferocactus viridescens i believe. 

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Mammillaria/Cochemiea dioica 

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Mammillaria/Cochemiea dioica & Dudleya edulis above ( is my best guess?)

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Dudleya edulis?

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Yucca schidigera 

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Yucca schidigera & Opuntia littoralis 

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Opuntia littoralis 

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Cylindropuntia prolifera I believe 

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Bergerocatcus emoryi 

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Unknown bush?

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Dudleya pulverulenta? 

 

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Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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4 hours ago, Jubaea_James760 said:

I don't know what I was expecting but I wasn't expecting shawii to look/grow the way it does. Grows tall & holds on to basically all its leaves to the base. Some we're close to 5 feet tall! Took a scroll around Cabrillo state park in Point Loma, San Diego. 

Agave shawii var. shawii 

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Ferocactus viridescens i believe. 

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Mammillaria/Cochemiea dioica 

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Mammillaria/Cochemiea dioica & Dudleya edulis above ( is my best guess?)

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Dudleya edulis?

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Yucca schidigera 

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Yucca schidigera & Opuntia littoralis 

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Opuntia littoralis 

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Cylindropuntia prolifera I believe 

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Bergerocatcus emoryi 

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Unknown bush?

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Dudleya pulverulenta? 

 

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:greenthumb::greenthumb:  So nice to finally see some shots of " natural " coastal San Diego..  Always amazes me when someone is shocked to learn that " Desert  Plants " ...like various Cacti, Agave, and Yucca / Hesperoyucca  grow right next to the beaches down there  and  further south in Baja.

" Unknown Bush " in question is Eriodictyon crassifolium, Thick Leaved Yerba Santa.

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James, your Dudleya IDs seem correct to me based upon appearance and natural range. 

Dudleya virens ssp. hassei can appear somewhat similar to D edulis, but it doesn't naturally occur on the mainland. 

When open, D edulis flowers look like this:

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D edulis is primarily insect pollinated. 

D pulverulenta is adapted to hummingbird pollination, but I would expect that bees and butterflies make some contribution as well. 

Great photos, thanks for sharing.

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Chris

San Francisco, CA 

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@Rivera, thank you👍

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Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

Posted
18 hours ago, Rivera said:

James, your Dudleya IDs seem correct to me based upon appearance and natural range. 

Dudleya virens ssp. hassei can appear somewhat similar to D edulis, but it doesn't naturally occur on the mainland. 

When open, D edulis flowers look like this:

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D edulis is primarily insect pollinated. 

D pulverulenta is adapted to hummingbird pollination, but I would expect that bees and butterflies make some contribution as well. 

Great photos, thanks for sharing.

 I concur with the Dudleya edulis id.  While I have not noticed Dudleya edulis on my visits to Cabrillo Monument in the past, they are definitely a common sight in Torrey Pines State Park and on the various routes down to Blacks beach.   We also have them further north in Encinitas and Carlsbad.  This is all definitely in the heart of their range from Point Loma north.  Interestingly, I don’t see them around my business around the south end of the San Diego Bay.  They seem to like cliff habitats best.  Perhaps disturbance plays a roll in that.

Nice habitat photos James.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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