Calosphace Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 (edited) Going off this thread which features some orchids and broms, might convert this to a google doc since I think Palmtalk doesn't let me edit after a certain time ~= Dodgier/less tested, possibly only 9b *= Ones that should have at least individuals capable of handling these temps based on iNaturalist or other distributions will be marked by asterisk. Take this with a grain of salt as it is just my guess and if any are in cultivation, they may not have that trait even if some do. Other caveats: wet cold is a different beast, as it persistent cold, and exposed cold. Epiphytes tend to benefit from a canopy to afford some protection from frost settling on them. Bromeliads Based on personal experience and this good reference: https://fcbs.org/articles/cold_sensitivity_of_bromeliads.htm Acanthostachys strobilacea various matchstick Aechmea including Aechmea apocalyptica Aechmea gamosepala Aechmea kertesziae Aechmea disticantha Aechmea lamarchei ~Aechmea orlandiana Aechmea recurvata Billbergia distachia Billbergia meyeri Billbergia nutans Billbergia pyramidalis various Bil. hybrids (will need to be evaluated individually) Brocchia reducta Fascicularia bicolor Neoregelia carolinae Neoregelia concentrica Neoregelia cruenta [no damage at brief 24F last winter, somewhat exposed] various other Neos, Nidularium fulgens Nidularium innocentii [no damage at brief 24F, sheltered Nidularium procerum Nidularium regelioides *Tillandsia aeranthos [tria ling rn] Tillandsia baileyi ~Tillandsia fasiculata, at least FL ones Tillandsia fuchsii var. gracilis mine survived 26F Tillandsia grandis Tillandsia ionantha Tillandsia ixioides Tillandsia recurvata Tillandsia setacea Tillandsia simulata Tillandsia tenuifolia Tillandsia usenoides Tillandsia x floridana Quesnelia quesneliana Quesnelia testudo Vriesia atra Vriesia barilletii Vriesia bituminosa x saundersii Vriesia 'Black Beauty' Vriesia carinata Vriesia corcovadensis Vriesia ensiformis Vriesia flammea Vriesia friburgensis Vriesia gigantea Vriesia incurvata Vriesia lubbersi Vriesia phillipocoburgii Vriesia platynema Vriesia 'Purple Cockatoo' Vriesia 'Rex' Vriesia scalaris Vriesia schwackiana Vriesia simplex Cacti ~* Epiphyllum hookeri Hatiora spp. magenta noid Easter cactus Selenicereus spinulosus Misc. Aeschynanthus buxifolia Aeschynanthus tengchungensis *Aeschynanthus parviflora Kalanchoe uniflora Pleopeltis polypodioides Orchids: *Ansellia africana *Cattleya cernua Dendrobium moniliforme ~at least some Dendrobium nobile hybrids Encyclia tampensis Epidendrum conopseum Laelia anceps, most forms, possibly all varieties in cultivation but that is unknown Sedirea japonica Edited November 12 by Calosphace 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calosphace Posted November 15 Author Report Share Posted November 15 Well since I cannot update that list I went ahead and made a spreadsheet so I can keep the list going https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I0NnjsYvbkqnak3KoLdIb6BQjISDvaDufDYcJfh_qN4/edit?usp=sharing There are columns for additional information. At time of this post I have Comments column for siting help and survived temperatures. Sources column I might use to link to records of survival (e.g. the FCBS list or posts on this forum). If anyone wants to be added to contribute shoot me a message : ) or post here and I can add plants. Epiphytes are my favorite thing and having plants out and about interacting with the environment is much more interesting to me so i appreciate any information about additional plants I can slap onto my trees and not coddle come winter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFLP48584 Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 On 11/12/2023 at 6:27 PM, Calosphace said: Going off this thread which features some orchids and broms, might convert this to a google doc since I think Palmtalk doesn't let me edit after a certain time ~= Dodgier/less tested, possibly only 9b *= Ones that should have at least individuals capable of handling these temps based on iNaturalist or other distributions will be marked by asterisk. Take this with a grain of salt as it is just my guess and if any are in cultivation, they may not have that trait even if some do. Other caveats: wet cold is a different beast, as it persistent cold, and exposed cold. Epiphytes tend to benefit from a canopy to afford some protection from frost settling on them. Bromeliads Based on personal experience and this good reference: https://fcbs.org/articles/cold_sensitivity_of_bromeliads.htm Acanthostachys strobilacea various matchstick Aechmea including Aechmea apocalyptica Aechmea gamosepala Aechmea kertesziae Aechmea disticantha Aechmea lamarchei ~Aechmea orlandiana Aechmea recurvata Billbergia distachia Billbergia meyeri Billbergia nutans Billbergia pyramidalis various Bil. hybrids (will need to be evaluated individually) Brocchia reducta Fascicularia bicolor Neoregelia carolinae Neoregelia concentrica Neoregelia cruenta [no damage at brief 24F last winter, somewhat exposed] various other Neos, Nidularium fulgens Nidularium innocentii [no damage at brief 24F, sheltered Nidularium procerum Nidularium regelioides *Tillandsia aeranthos [tria ling rn] Tillandsia baileyi ~Tillandsia fasiculata, at least FL ones Tillandsia fuchsii var. gracilis mine survived 26F Tillandsia grandis Tillandsia ionantha Tillandsia ixioides Tillandsia recurvata Tillandsia setacea Tillandsia simulata Tillandsia tenuifolia Tillandsia usenoides Tillandsia x floridana Quesnelia quesneliana Quesnelia testudo Vriesia atra Vriesia barilletii Vriesia bituminosa x saundersii Vriesia 'Black Beauty' Vriesia carinata Vriesia corcovadensis Vriesia ensiformis Vriesia flammea Vriesia friburgensis Vriesia gigantea Vriesia incurvata Vriesia lubbersi Vriesia phillipocoburgii Vriesia platynema Vriesia 'Purple Cockatoo' Vriesia 'Rex' Vriesia scalaris Vriesia schwackiana Vriesia simplex Cacti ~* Epiphyllum hookeri Hatiora spp. magenta noid Easter cactus Selenicereus spinulosus Misc. Aeschynanthus buxifolia Aeschynanthus tengchungensis *Aeschynanthus parviflora Kalanchoe uniflora Pleopeltis polypodioides Orchids: *Ansellia africana *Cattleya cernua Dendrobium moniliforme ~at least some Dendrobium nobile hybrids Encyclia tampensis Epidendrum conopseum Laelia anceps, most forms, possibly all varieties in cultivation but that is unknown Sedirea japonica Mystacidium venosum, among the epiphytic orchids. -Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calosphace Posted November 15 Author Report Share Posted November 15 Thanks! Added I knew I was forgetting one of the South African ones. Is this tested or based on range? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiphyte Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 very worthy endeavor! i grow quite a wide variety of epiphytes outdoors year around in the los angeles area. my zone used to be 9b but based on the change this year i'm now 10a, a couple blocks away from 10b. seems like it's been a few years since there's been a freeze here. when i first started seriously collecting epiphytes i primarily focused on cold tolerance. eventually i realized that the main culprit of epiphyte death in my garden wasn't cold, but drought. a big chunk of the survivors are from drier forests. i went through my original plant database that has 1771 records and tagged all the epiphytes, of which there were 1157. i went through them and removed the duplicates and the plants like ceratostema rauhii. that left around 400 records... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f_WJUw1ND2nUywSC8TmTmfh4XPKF_C-IhPPNGnua1fY/edit?usp=sharing i stopped using my original database around a decade ago and started using a google sheet. i didn't import all the records i just haphazardly updated the sheet. it's up to 449 records. i need to tag the epiphytes and transfer all the new ones to the socal epiphyte sheet, such as hoya thomsonii. one thing that's a bit tricky is that there are plenty of non-epiphytes that grow epiphytically better than plenty of epiphytes. for example, graptopetalum (paraguayense?) has been happily growing on my cedar tree for years. same with echeveria mahogany. both had no problem with infrequent watering, unlike echeveria rosea, the epiphyte from mexico. i love it but it's kinda thirsty. i have it growing in the small area i try to water more often. so far i've made a couple crosses with it. Epiphytes and Economics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbrown_III Posted November 21 Report Share Posted November 21 How much cold can Aglaomorpha coronans tolerate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in Tucson Posted November 21 Report Share Posted November 21 8 hours ago, epiphyte said: very worthy endeavor! i grow quite a wide variety of epiphytes outdoors year around in the los angeles area. my zone used to be 9b but based on the change this year i'm now 10a, a couple blocks away from 10b. seems like it's been a few years since there's been a freeze here. when i first started seriously collecting epiphytes i primarily focused on cold tolerance. eventually i realized that the main culprit of epiphyte death in my garden wasn't cold, but drought. a big chunk of the survivors are from drier forests. i went through my original plant database that has 1771 records and tagged all the epiphytes, of which there were 1157. i went through them and removed the duplicates and the plants like ceratostema rauhii. that left around 400 records... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f_WJUw1ND2nUywSC8TmTmfh4XPKF_C-IhPPNGnua1fY/edit?usp=sharing i stopped using my original database around a decade ago and started using a google sheet. i didn't import all the records i just haphazardly updated the sheet. it's up to 449 records. i need to tag the epiphytes and transfer all the new ones to the socal epiphyte sheet, such as hoya thomsonii. one thing that's a bit tricky is that there are plenty of non-epiphytes that grow epiphytically better than plenty of epiphytes. for example, graptopetalum (paraguayense?) has been happily growing on my cedar tree for years. same with echeveria mahogany. both had no problem with infrequent watering, unlike echeveria rosea, the epiphyte from mexico. i love it but it's kinda thirsty. i have it growing in the small area i try to water more often. so far i've made a couple crosses with it. Many terrestrial succulent plants find arboreal niches as suitable for growing as in their typical locations. I'm assuming that you're talking about the hybrid Echeveria 'Mahogany Rose'. Hi 69°, Lo 42° Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014 formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiphyte Posted November 21 Report Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Tom in Tucson said: Many terrestrial succulent plants find arboreal niches as suitable for growing as in their typical locations. yeah i've seen plenty of pics of opuntias growing on trees 1 hour ago, Tom in Tucson said: I'm assuming that you're talking about the hybrid Echeveria 'Mahogany Rose'. yup yup Epiphytes and Economics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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