Coastal bluff California native or invasive

[Tracy]

This seems to love our local coastal sea bluff that was replanted with native species z couple of years ago, but they didn't remove all the invasive species first.  It is covered with a hodgepodge of native and invasive species today so that it is difficult to assess which a plsnt is without knowledge of the species.  I confess to ignorance on this plant so am hoping for an id.

[Silas_Sancona]

38 minutes ago, Tracy said:

This seems to love our local coastal sea bluff that was replanted with native species z couple of years ago, but they didn't remove all the invasive species first.  It is covered with a hodgepodge of native and invasive species today so that it is difficult to assess which a plsnt is without knowledge of the species.  I confess to ignorance on this plant so am hoping for an id.

Beach Suncup, Camissoniopsis cheiranthifolia.  CA. Coastal Native.. Other thing growing within it could be one of the Fiddleheads, ( if the inflorescence arrangement is in a Cyme ) or a Composite.  Not sure about either of the other things in the shot.

iNat Data:  https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75976-Camissoniopsis-cheiranthifolia

[Tracy]

19 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Beach Suncup, Camissoniopsis cheiranthifolia.  CA. Coastal Native.. Other thing growing within it could be one of the Fiddleheads, ( if the inflorescence arrangement is in a Cyme ) or a Composite.  Not sure about either of the other things in the shot.

iNat Data:  https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75976-Camissoniopsis-cheiranthifolia

Thank you for that id Nathan.   That Beach Suncup was the one I was interested in identifying.   It was hard to find one that wasn't entwined with other plants, so this was one with the fewest and smallest entanglements. 

[Rivera]

I think this is the same thing?

But I've also mixed it up with invasive primroses before, even rescuing a plant of mistaken identity from a beach highway hellstrip project where I had a small contract with a homeowner. 

[Silas_Sancona]

38 minutes ago, Rivera said:

I think this is the same thing?

But I've also mixed it up with invasive primroses before, even rescuing a plant of mistaken identity from a beach highway hellstrip project where I had a small contract with a homeowner. 

Looks like it. 

That said, there's a few other Camissonopsis native to the coast. Each looks distinct compared to the others though, imo:

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75980-Camissoniopsis-hirtella

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75985-Camissoniopsis-micrantha

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75986-Camissoniopsis-pallida

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75975-Camissoniopsis-bistorta

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/56779-Camissonia-strigulosa


Could the " invasive sp " have resembled something like either of these?..

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/62207-Oenothera-biennis

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/62208-Oenothera-glazioviana

...or maybe younger  https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/51814-Oenothera-elata-hookeri   Which i remember seeing all over the place around Santa Cruz, and around San Jose but is considered a CA. native.

Regular ol' O. elata  is fairly common here also.  Remember seeing Ludwigia offered in nurseries in CA. in the past.  May be banned now.  ( Don't think the places i'd worked sold it ) Think the species offered hangs out mainly in wet places / is aquatic.

At least 1 other native Sundrop / cup / Evening Primrose that used to be placed in the Genus Calylophus  but got lumped into Oenothera O. berlanderi.   that might be encountered growing along / near the coast in various in Cen / S. CA. areas too.

Can understand lumping these w/ regular Evening Primrose, but the powers that be also tossed Gaura and Clarkia in w/ Oenothera when they  rearranged things  ..which makes you scratch your head a bit, me at least, lol.  

A few native Mustard -relatives, possibly a non native sp as well that grow near the coast can resemble some of the Suncups too when not flowering.

 

[Rivera]

6 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Looks like it. 

That said, there's a few other Camissonopsis native to the coast. Each looks distinct compared to the others though, imo:

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75980-Camissoniopsis-hirtella

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75985-Camissoniopsis-micrantha

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75986-Camissoniopsis-pallida

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/75975-Camissoniopsis-bistorta

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/56779-Camissonia-strigulosa


Could the " invasive sp " have resembled something like either of these?..

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/62207-Oenothera-biennis

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/62208-Oenothera-glazioviana

...or maybe younger  https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/51814-Oenothera-elata-hookeri   Which i remember seeing all over the place around Santa Cruz, and around San Jose but is considered a CA. native.

Regular ol' O. elata  is fairly common here also.  Remember seeing Ludwigia offered in nurseries in CA. in the past.  May be banned now.  ( Don't think the places i'd worked sold it ) Think the species offered hangs out mainly in wet places / is aquatic.

At least 1 other native Sundrop / cup / Evening Primrose that used to be placed in the Genus Calylophus  but got lumped into Oenothera O. berlanderi.   that might be encountered growing along / near the coast in various in Cen / S. CA. areas too.

Can understand lumping these w/ regular Evening Primrose, but the powers that be also tossed Gaura and Clarkia in w/ Oenothera when they  rearranged things  ..which makes you scratch your head a bit, me at least, lol.  

A few native Mustard -relatives, possibly a non native sp as well that grow near the coast can resemble some of the Suncups too when not flowering.

 

You know, it more closely resembled the natives you listed here. Little yellow cups, gray-green and hairy, with the kind of sprawling habit you'd associate with dune vegetation, so it seems like it may have been one of the native primroses after all. Maybe even the one that started this thread, which is what I originally thought it was.