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Posted

I have 11 of these planted, five seedlings were added just last November and are unphased. These are right up there alongside Jubaeas as bulletproof.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Your low?

 San Francisco Bay Area, California

Zone 10a

Posted

27F or even a few degrees colder (it is planted in the lowest part of my garden out by the street), out in the open, no problems!

David Vogelsang

OC, California

Zone 10a

Posted

1 gallon baby, planted this fall, 28 F (-1 C)three nights running, no damage so far.

dave

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Posted

That's encouraging since I have a seedling that was beat up pretty bad in the summer heat wave...

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

Posted

25F-26F for 5 hours, 1' tall seedling- no damage

Posted

23 F low and no damage.  I have 4 large ones and they were damaged at 14F in the 89/90 freeze.  Only 3 or 4 center fronds remained green but they recovered fairly fast, and very minor trunk damage on the cold side of the trunk.

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Richard Douglas

Posted

21F no damage to report. 4 feet tall.

Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science

Posted

Not as good news with my butia x syagrus.  Four nights below twenty, including fourteen degrees twice.

At five feet tall, six months in the ground from St. Augustine, it has some moderate to heavy damage.  It's not as tough as the butias, obviously; it may be a backcross with another syagrus, since another strap-leaf butiagrus has no damage.

Most troubling is the toasted spear -- most of my palms had the worst damage to the older fronds.  

I've been giving the base of the spear squirts of peroxide as a prophylactic measure.  I'm thinking copper next.

Jon T.

Jon T-Central CA coastal valley foothills-9A

Forever seeking juania australis...

  • 11 months later...
Posted

3 gallon saw 23 degrees. from Moultrie palms (resembles queen more so)

no damage, not frost that night.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Posted

(FRITO @ Jan. 17 2008,00:29)

QUOTE
3 gallon saw 23 degrees. from Moultrie palms (resembles queen more so)

no damage, not frost that night.

Keep the info coming.  I am thinking on 3 from Moultrie soon in 15g size, which is also a sizeable investment.  Every bit of info helps to insure I am making the right investment.

PS - FRITO, I smile everytime I see that screen name.  Don't know why but it tickles my funny bone every time you post.  Great choice.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

This isnt current but may be of interest,

I had one of Merrills out in 1989

It was a 3 gallon planted that year. Very cold 2 or 3 nights in teens with a low of 16 F.  I lost the spear but returned. It has at least 14 feet of trunk currently.

Large ones at college werent hurt. Of more value is that Walter Rogers had a large one at his house in Yacht Club Road. It went through 83' and 85' freezes which were substantially colder. Merrill can likely relate other info for Gainesville.

Ted Waas and the Late Charlie Raulerson have a dated principes article relating its survival in 1962 freeze.

All ofterh freezes here in Jax have been irrevelant after these.

Best regards,

Ed

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

One plant, 2' OA height

19f, many hours and nights below freezing

25% leaf burn

Fully recoverd

If global warming means I can grow Cocos Nucifera, then bring it on....

  • 11 months later...
Posted

27F and many hours and nights at or below freezing with many mornings with short periods of light frost. 3ft. tall, no damage

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Young Butyagrus x approx 3ft tall took -2C (28F) with no damage whatsoever, plus a few more nights at or just below freezing. Temperatures were below freezing for as long as 15 hours on one occassion...

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Malta - USDA Zone 11a

  • 1 year later...
Posted

From Moultrie Palms. Multiple hours below freezing with ultimate low around 20. Some tips of leaves burned but ultimately one of the best performing palms in my yard. This is the first time I have seen these damaged at all, it was COLD!!!

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

Posted

Severe Damage to exposed southerly Facing Mules in zone 8b/9a after Jan 2010 Freeze in College Station, Texas and Hempstead, Texas. (15.5 to 20F) Shaded ones look fine.

Santa Barbara,  California. Zone 10b

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

My 1,2 m. palm is in its pot suffered a bit from the dicember cold snap here in northern Italy, in a cold greenhouse survived after 2 nights at -7°C and -5° C (19° and 23° F) now has many little spot in the leaves

best

Federico

Federico

Ravenna , Italy

USDA 8a\b

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  • 5 weeks later...
Posted

Update, Spear pull march 31st on Mule Palm after a low of 15.5 ( below 20 for only 4 or 5 hours). Looks like 16 to 18 degrees is its limit without some damage.

Ryan - CollectorPalms

Santa Barbara,  California. Zone 10b

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Low of 14F. 14 days straight of below freezing temps. Minor or no overhead protection. 5 Plants in the ground ranging from 3 to 5 ft tall. One spear pull (jury's still out on whether it will recover) and one spear damaged but appears to be fine.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

My 1,2 m. palm is in its pot suffered a bit from the dicember cold snap here in northern Italy, in a cold greenhouse survived after 2 nights at -7°C and -5° C (19° and 23° F) now has many little spot in the leaves

best

Federico

After 2 montes the spear is now dry, I hope it will recovery

bye

Federico

Ravenna , Italy

USDA 8a\b

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Posted

Palm with the "pulled" spear is pushing out a new spear, and this was after loosing 3 of its new leaves in slow succession. Kept inoculating it with peroxide.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

PICTURE UPDATE;: 4 months after Jan 2010 freeze of 19F and many hours below 32 at Peckerwood Gardens, Hemstead Texas Zone 9a.

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Ryan Fuller

www.collectorpalms.com

Santa Barbara,  California. Zone 10b

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

  • 1 month later...
Posted

My butyagrus took 16F this past winter and only had minor damage at the growth point. Growing well this summer. Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

  • 2 years later...
Posted

Any updates on how the Mule palms are doing? I know some people had some bad weather.

Posted

I have a couple in my large cold frame that had a couple weeks at 25 degree nights, no problems but it gets hot in there in the day if the sun peeks out and it did.

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  • 1 year later...
Posted

3 gallon, in the ground took 16F in December with three days below freezing, then low of 21F in February three days below freezing. Protected with small blanket around trunk and then larger blanket over palm. No damage what so ever, has some canopy above from holly tree.

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  • 8 years later...
Posted

I wanted so much for my mules to make it through the texas freeze but they look like there is no hope. A lot of money spent for 1 month of enjoyment. The green that is new growth has a lot of yellowing. I wish there was someone local that I could pay to guide me. So disappointed.40830A04-6F8C-4B1E-824B-9E00CB7BAEE3.thumb.jpeg.ebce2e871ea3b9911787462f8ee5bec2.jpeg

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Posted

Part of the problem is that they were planted...during winter. They did not have nearly enough time to establish themselves before the freeze.

If they are still growing then they might be fine. What was your low temperature?

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Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa, 1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 39

Posted

Hello again, it's your neighbor

Your mules are fine, will just look bad for a few months (just try to ignore the brown). Pushing any growth is a very good sign, the first new leaf or two might be damaged but the palms should be good to go from there. Mules grow fast once the heat returns. 

I think you posted in the main forum a few weeks ago...have some patience and faith 🙂

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Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

Posted
11 hours ago, Nicole Milner said:

I wanted so much for my mules to make it through the texas freeze but they look like there is no hope. A lot of money spent for 1 month of enjoyment. The green that is new growth has a lot of yellowing. I wish there was someone local that I could pay to guide me. So disappointed.40830A04-6F8C-4B1E-824B-9E00CB7BAEE3.thumb.jpeg.ebce2e871ea3b9911787462f8ee5bec2.jpeg

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Where are these located and how low were the temps ?

Palms not just a tree also a state of mind

Posted

Hi y’all. Thank you. I’m very new to palms and only want the best for them. I have new growth on all 3 but the growth is coming out yellow. Any ideas? Is there something I can feed them to help nourish before I fertilize? See pic of yellow growth

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Posted
On 1/16/2023 at 7:59 PM, JLM said:

Part of the problem is that they were planted...during winter. They did not have nearly enough time to establish themselves before the freeze.

If they are still growing then they might be fine. What was your low temperature?

I think my low temp was 14ish. I can’t really remember.

Posted
1 hour ago, Nicole Milner said:

I think my low temp was 14ish. I can’t really remember.

If the new growth is coming out, thats all the matters. Fertilizing now would increase new growth which is not what you want to do during winter. I would fertilize immediately as soon as we reach March, which is what i plan to do. My Queens look like trash right now!

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Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa, 1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 39

  • 1 year later...
Posted

live without even a single burn on the leaves,at  - 5.7 degrees celsius,in   january 2017

GIUSEPPE

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