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Anyone have experience with little gem magnolia?

JLM
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JLM Grand Master

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This might go down in PT history as one of the most waste-of-time threads ever, but i have to know what yalls experiences are with these. The big southern magnolias are native here, and the little gem magnolia is really just a dwarf version. 

My question is can these trees tolerate standing water for short-long periods of time? The place that we want to put the tree is in a very flood prone spot with sandy soil. The rose bushes did not seem to like last year's super wet summer. We were 30" above average for our yearly total by the end of the summer, thankfully we dried out over the winter, but we dried out too much and are now in a drought. The rose bushes mentioned defoliated several times throughout the summer and didnt flower much. It certainly didnt help none that they were almost uprooted by Hurricane Sally in 2020 (their first summer in the ground), so it took them a while to get established again, and one of them still wobbles a little bit. We plan on fixing the gutter there before planting to see if this helps the situation. Whenever we get heavy rains or moderate rains that last for long periods of time, the gutter fills up and it really just becomes a waterfall. This water falls directly behind the area of interest and floods the entire area. If we built the area up with more soil along with fixing the gutter, would yall think its doable? This spot would provide shade to the dining room window, so we really hope this is possible.

PS: Magnolias go for $70+ in Lowes or Home Depot, but we managed to snag this one for $30 at Walmart. What a friggin deal. We couldnt pass this up.

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Palms - 1 Adonidia merillii, 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorata, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 1 Chamaerops humilis, 1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa, 1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis, 1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltii, 1 Livistona chinensis, 1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis, 3 Phoenix roebelenii, 2 Ravenea rivularis, 1 Rhapis excelsa, 1 Sabal bermudana, 3 Sabal palmetto, 4 Syagrus romanzoffiana, 8 Trachycarpus fortunei, 4 Washingtonia robusta, 1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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ahosey01 Grand Master

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I love the little gems and my understanding is that if it’s the growing season and your soil is sandy, you probably can’t overwater them.  I think you - ideally - just want to make sure the pH isn’t too high.

Chester B Grand Master

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Not a waste of time, I love these trees.   I just bought another one on the weekend, but they are nowhere near $70 here.  6' specimens can go for up to $300 on average, but the one HomeDepot by me gets 6-10 trees in per year in mid March in the 8' range for $130.

I have a few as street trees in a hot spot but in sandy soil so I am watering them during summer.  You need to water them the first 3 years so they get established, cutting back a bit each year.  As far as I know they can take the wet very well.  I have one planted in the wettest spot in my yard that can be waterlogged something terrible during winter and it has no issues.  This one I don't need to water.

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JLM Grand Master

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  On 3/15/2022 at 10:45 AM, Chester B said:

Not a waste of time, I love these trees.   I just bought another one on the weekend, but they are nowhere near $70 here.  6' specimens can go for up to $300 on average, but the one HomeDepot by me gets 6-10 trees in per year in mid March in the 8' range for $130.

I have a few as street trees in a hot spot but in sandy soil so I am watering them during summer.  You need to water them the first 3 years so they get established, cutting back a bit each year.  As far as I know they can take the wet very well.  I have one planted in the wettest spot in my yard that can be waterlogged something terrible during winter and it has no issues.  This one I don't need to water.

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Good info here. The little gems for $70 here are the small ones. By small i mean this small:

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The one i got at Walmart was just a wee bit smaller than the one pictured.

I read that little gems flower heavily at a smaller size, is this true? If so, ill be getting this sucker in the ground ASAP and hopefully we get some flowers this summer.

Palms - 1 Adonidia merillii, 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorata, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 1 Chamaerops humilis, 1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa, 1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis, 1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltii, 1 Livistona chinensis, 1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis, 3 Phoenix roebelenii, 2 Ravenea rivularis, 1 Rhapis excelsa, 1 Sabal bermudana, 3 Sabal palmetto, 4 Syagrus romanzoffiana, 8 Trachycarpus fortunei, 4 Washingtonia robusta, 1 Wodyetia bifurcata
Total: 41

Chester B Grand Master

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  On 3/16/2022 at 5:00 AM, JLM said:

Good info here. The little gems for $70 here are the small ones. By small i mean this small:

image.jpeg.f861144139280b0dc23b85293fa4dae0.jpeg

The one i got at Walmart was just a wee bit smaller than the one pictured.

I read that little gems flower heavily at a smaller size, is this true? If so, ill be getting this sucker in the ground ASAP and hopefully we get some flowers this summer.

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I wouldn't say they flower "heavily" when small but they do produce flowers almost all year.  I have another two in my backyard, one I believe is VIctoria and the other is unknown and they definitely don't flower as regularly and for as long as Little gem.

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JLM Grand Master

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This tree is finally in the ground! Pics come later

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Palms - 1 Adonidia merillii, 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorata, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 1 Chamaerops humilis, 1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa, 1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis, 1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltii, 1 Livistona chinensis, 1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis, 3 Phoenix roebelenii, 2 Ravenea rivularis, 1 Rhapis excelsa, 1 Sabal bermudana, 3 Sabal palmetto, 4 Syagrus romanzoffiana, 8 Trachycarpus fortunei, 4 Washingtonia robusta, 1 Wodyetia bifurcata
Total: 41

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My neighbor has a couple Teddy Bear Magnolias, beautiful, easy to grow. I have a few sweet bay magnolias, super swampy growing conditions and are fine. Not showy though.

I seen the Little Gems for sale at Walmart a while back for $29.99.

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