I have an interest in zone pushing Philos and 2 at the top of my list had always been P. Subincisum (aka Wilsonii) and P. Evansii because of their reported hardiness.  I managed to get my hands on a Subincisum a few years ago before prices exploded but the Evansii were also priced a little higher than I wanted to pay for a weather experiment.  From what I understand, the leaves on both these plants look very similar but the tell should be that Evansii is a self-header and Subincisum is a climber.  I found this large cutting of an unidentified plant on eBay yesterday for $39 shipped and I pulled the trigger.  The description said it was a climber but couldn't really tell from the pics.  I emailed the seller and she said it climbs and sent these pics but it looks more like the way a T. Bipinnatifidum will kind of just hold on to a tree as opposed to a true climber.  So what do the experts think?   Evansii, Subincisum, or something else?

It looks like a P. subincisum to me.

Yeahhh..dang.  After staring at pictures of the different leaves last night I finally realized that the Subincisum basal veins all swoop into the sinus whereas the Evansii has a midrib on each lobe that has basal veins branched off of it.  Hopefully I used these terms right, but the pics show it.   The pics also make the leaves look completely different so they may be mislabeled but I just grabbed something off of Google to illustrate. I just asked for the seller to cancel if they haven't shipped yet.  If anyone knows of an Evansii for sale at a reasonable price please let me know!

Edited November 16, 20214 yr by Keys6505