Nearly toothless dasylirion

[GDLWyverex]

Got this dasylirion today which looks a whole lot like a D. Wheeleri but almost totally toothless with just a few teeth near the trunk on a few of the leaves.

 

 

 

Is there such a thing as a bald wheeleri or is it some other type???
Thanks

Richard

[Tracy]

1 hour ago, GDLWyverex said:

totally toothless with just a few teeth...  Is there such a thing as a bald wheeleri or is it some other type???

Yes, sure there is one that fits this description, the common name for it is the "Old Man Dasylirion".  If you find the species name that matches this common name, you will see under the description that it must be bald, toothless with just a few teeth.  If it's just balding and not completely bald yet, it's not the real thing.

[Gonzer]

'Crack-Head Dasylirion'

[GDLWyverex]

57 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Yes, sure there is one that fits this description, the common name for it is the "Old Man Dasylirion".  If you find the species name that matches this common name, you will see under the description that it must be bald, toothless with just a few teeth.  If it's just balding and not completely bald yet, it's not the real thing.

Old Man Dasylirion refers to Dasylirion longifolium which is a synonym for Nolina parviflora

I'm more inclined towards Dasylirion longissimum which seems to fit my plant well

Thanks

 

Richard

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by GDLWyverex

[GDLWyverex]

1 hour ago, Gonzer said:

'Crack-Head Dasylirion'

I was unable to cross reference that name to anything which I could validate with any degree of confidence, however, as posted in a previous message; I decided that D. Longissimum was a really good fit for my plant

Thanks

 

Richard

[Tracy]

1 hour ago, Gonzer said:

'Crack-Head Dasylirion'

I understand these were native under freeway underpasses just outside Tuscon with a range extending north to Las Vegas, west into the inland valleys of California and east into Albuquerque.    Of course over the last few decades their range has expanded as their popularity has grown to become an invasive species across the country.

[Silas_Sancona]

6 minutes ago, Tracy said:

I understand these were native under freeway underpasses just outside Tuscon with a range extending north to Las Vegas, west into the inland valleys of California and east into Albuquerque.    Of course over the last few decades their range has expanded as their popularity has grown to become an invasive species across the country.

Homeless people..?

 

[Tracy]

6 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Homeless people..?

No ... See Gonzer's post for the reference.  The original post seemed to invite digressions, but I fear that I may have lead us far off course from Dasylirion species.

I would expect the plant in question is not D longissimum as I'm not familiar with seeing any barbs, spines or teeth on the specimens I have seen or the one I'm growing.  That isn't to say that small leaf spines near the base aren't just a juvenile trait.  Nathan, I would suspect you are more familiar with the genus and can weigh in.

[Silas_Sancona]

8 minutes ago, Tracy said:

No ... See Gonzer's post for the reference.  The original post seemed to invite digressions, but I fear that I may have lead us far off course from Dasylirion species.

I would not expect the plant in question is not D longissimum as I'm not familiar with seeing any barbs, spines or teeth on the specimens I have seen or the one I'm growing.  That isn't to say that small leaf spines near the base aren't just a juvenile trait.  Nathan, I would suspect you are more familiar with the genus and can weigh in.

..Tough call, leaves look too wide ( to me) for D. longissimum.. Anythings possible i guess but don't recall any teeth on even younger foliage on D.l. either. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/206325-Dasylirion-longissimum

[Gonzer]

10 hours ago, Tracy said:

I understand these were native under freeway underpasses just outside Tuscon with a range extending north to Las Vegas, west into the inland valleys of California and east into Albuquerque.    Of course over the last few decades their range has expanded as their popularity has grown to become an invasive species across the country.

 

[GDLWyverex]

5 hours ago, Gonzer said:

 

So I'll add it to the database as Dasylirion CV crack-head Or maybe d.longisissimum CVcrack-headad 

Thanks

Richard