Monstera - Myrtle Beach

[DAVEinMB]

Planted at Pirates Voyage - probably only been there a season or two but still cool to see

[Silas_Sancona]

28 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said:

Planted at Pirates Voyage - probably only been there a season or two but still cool to see

That's actually Phillodendron selloum.  Monstera will have more rounded leaves.  Nice find regardless..

[DAVEinMB]

Just now, Silas_Sancona said:

That's actually Phillodendron selloum.  Monstera will have more rounded leaves.  Nice find regardless..

Well looks like I have to delete my Plant ID app lol. Thanks for the correction 

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said:

Well looks like I have to delete my Plant ID app lol. Thanks for the correction 

lol.. I would too if it gets something like these mixed up that easily..  I'll tell ya, that Philly does well there for a couple years, Monstera might be worth trialing also ( outdoors ) -in the right spot.

[Chester B]

They're hardier than you think too.  I've had one outside for a couple years in 8B.  This winter we had an ice storm so the leaves were damaged so I cut them off, but its coming back.

[DAVEinMB]

4 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

lol.. I would too if it gets something like these mixed up that easily..  I'll tell ya, that Philly does well there for a couple years, Monstera might be worth trialing also ( outdoors ) -in the right spot.

Yea it's out! Haha

A couple weeks ago I picked up what was labeled as split leaf philodendron from Lowe's. I'll post a pic later on when I get home, it might be a monstera

[Paradise Found]

Here they are dark green but I am loving the lighter green looks fresh and glowing in the shade. 

[DAVEinMB]

@Silas_Sancona here are what were labeled as split leaf philodendron. Got them up against the house on a south eastern face, pine tree canopy above, trachy and (hopefully soon) Livistona canopy down below

[Silas_Sancona]

Just now, DAVEinMB said:

@Silas_Sancona here are what were labeled as split leaf philodendron. Got them up against the house on a south eastern face, pine tree canopy above, trachy and (hopefully soon) Livistona canopy down below

No doubt that is Monstera. Even really small Phil. selloum will look more mature ones.  Have seen them miss -labeled as well, ..and the other way around at some places lol ( Both labeled as Monstera / or Phil. selloum ) Makes me wonder what kind of education some of the people who run these big corp.  nurseries actually have, haha

[DAVEinMB]

5 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

No doubt that is Monstera. Even really small Phil. selloum will look more mature ones.  Have seen them miss -labeled as well, ..and the other way around at some places lol ( Both labeled as Monstera / or Phil. selloum ) Makes me wonder what kind of education some of the people who run these big corp.  nurseries actually have, haha

Always nice to know that you're getting what you're told you are lol. Does this thing have any chance of living for a few years?

[Silas_Sancona]

4 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said:

Always nice to know that you're getting what you're told you are lol. Does this thing have any chance of living for a few years?

Right? lol.. Know someone who recently was stopped at the CA / AZ border and had a plant they were transporting taken because the AG inspector found an ant on it, and thought it was some sort of cactus ( is a type of flowering shrub. No thorns/ spines, succulent stems. Labeled and everything. )

Tough to say.. Your winters stay mild enough, and the spot it's in protected enough, possibly..  Obviously frost tender but should be easy to protect at that size.  If risking it outdoors is too much of a gamble, you can always throw it in a pot and overwinter indoors.  As long as they get adequate light, these things do pretty well inside. Will easily climb up/ over a piece of Tree fern trunk fiber ( usually sold as slabs / stick looking things )

Given time, they will flower/ set fruit also.. Just allow the outer Rind ( of the fruit ) to fall off before sampling( un-ripe fruit can cause pretty nasty / severe reactions ).

[Reyes Vargas]

These are a lot more cold hardy then they are given credit for.  Mine has survived the hard freeze of 2010 the ice storm of 2011 and most recent the arctic blast of 2021.  I don't know how cold it gets in MB.

Here is the best picture I have of it before the freeze.  Its in the background behind the desert rose.  It was massive and growing as a ground cover.

Here it is a couple weeks after the arctic blast where it experienced 23°.  Looked completely dead.

And here it is today.  It has recovered nicely although it's a fraction of its old self.

I'm probably going to remove it since it gets too large and messy looking.  I think I've had it long enough.

[DAVEinMB]

2 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Right? lol.. Know someone who recently was stopped at the CA / AZ border and had a plant they were transporting taken because the AG inspector found an ant on it, and thought it was some sort of cactus ( is a type of flowering shrub. No thorns/ spines, succulent stems. Labeled and everything. )

Tough to say.. Your winters stay mild enough, and the spot it's in protected enough, possibly..  Obviously frost tender but should be easy to protect at that size.  If risking it outdoors is too much of a gamble, you can always throw it in a pot and overwinter indoors.  As long as they get adequate light, these things do pretty well inside. Will easily climb up/ over a piece of Tree fern trunk fiber ( usually sold as slabs / stick looking things )

Given time, they will flower/ set fruit also.. Just allow the outer Rind ( of the fruit ) to fall off before sampling( un-ripe fruit can cause pretty nasty / severe reactions ).

Oh man I'd be livid if I was bringing a plant home and it was confiscated, especially because of an incorrect ID.

Well I guess if it doesn't make I can at least share some more hardiness info on here. I've been trying to sprinkle in more tender plants just to see how they'd do. I'm going into it expecting they won't do well, that way I'm not disappointed if the die but pleasantly surprised if they keep on. 

Yikes that's good to know about the fruit, thanks 

[DAVEinMB]

1 hour ago, Reyes Vargas said:

These are a lot more cold hardy then they are given credit for.  Mine has survived the hard freeze of 2010 the ice storm of 2011 and most recent the arctic blast of 2021.  I don't know how cold it gets in MB.

Here is the best picture I have of it before the freeze.  Its in the background behind the desert rose.  It was massive and growing as a ground cover.

Here it is a couple weeks after the arctic blast where it experienced 23°.  Looked completely dead.

And here it is today.  It has recovered nicely although it's a fraction of its old self.

I'm probably going to remove it since it gets too large and messy looking.  I think I've had it long enough.

Wow that looked like it was a monster. Mine will definitely see mid to low 20s every winter at least a handful of times - every few winters likely teens. Not impossible but pretty unlikely it will see frost given its siting and unless we have an arctic blast we don't see freezing precipitation. Hell if it goes it goes, either way I'm interested to see how it does. It shares its side of the house with some orange bird of paradise, arenga engleri, and a few queens so if we get a bad enough winter I may be replacing a good bit. 

[Keys6505]

2 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

Oh man I'd be livid if I was bringing a plant home and it was confiscated, especially because of an incorrect ID.

Well I guess if it doesn't make I can at least share some more hardiness info on here. I've been trying to sprinkle in more tender plants just to see how they'd do. I'm going into it expecting they won't do well, that way I'm not disappointed if the die but pleasantly surprised if they keep on. 

Yikes that's good to know about the fruit, thanks 

The good news is they grow pretty fast and propogate easily.  Just take a cutting in the fall and stick it in water.  If the outside one dies you have a free replacement.

[DAVEinMB]

1 hour ago, Keys6505 said:

The good news is they grow pretty fast and propogate easily.  Just take a cutting in the fall and stick it in water.  If the outside one dies you have a free replacement.

Right on, thanks! 

[Reyes Vargas]

10 hours ago, Keys6505 said:

The good news is they grow pretty fast and propogate easily.  Just take a cutting in the fall and stick it in water. 

I've tried propagating cuttings in water and soil with no luck.  They just rot.

[Eric in Orlando]

Selloum is now known as Thaumatophyllum bipinnatifidum. All the self heading Philodendrons have been placed into Thaumatophyllum.

[palmbrad]

I am trialing a Monstera cutting but has been slow to grow so far. Did survive this past winter with a little burn. Selloum is pretty tough. Photo #2 is of the trunk killed in 2018 and #1 shows the new growth since then. Pretty fast when given a good supply of water. Mine has roots down into my pond.

Edited June 25, 2021 by palmbrad