Turkey Southern Mediterranean delicious bananas and exotic fruits in the microclimate slopes...

[Anamurlu]

I know south Turkey pretty well. The region between has spots that offer a microclimate suitable for commercial banana trees farming (and these small bananas are way more delicious than the bigger tropical ones). Although tourism has destroyed many plantations one can find huge stretches of banana plantations in Turkey even today (they also experiment with tropical plants like in mediterranean). These areas are not impossible for any tropical plant.

So if you see that the night temperature in the middle of January for midtown Turkey/Mediterranean is 9 degrees, it's a couple of degrees warmer in those remote plantation hillsides.

'The average winter temperature is 20 degrees'

These areas are close to tropical values. In January terms, much, nearby, five a mile away, the difference is felt. There is not even any need for sera here anyway.

You just see the measurements from "civilized" centers.

Edited December 27, 2017 by Anamurlu

[Bennz]

They look good from this picture! Do you know which banana cultivar they are?  Which method of irrigation do they use in the summer? Do you know how high the fruit yield is?

You said 'The average winter temperature is 20 degrees', but the climate stats you posted have winter daily  mean of 11.8C. Are you saying the 20C is daytime high for the slopes the bananas are growing on?

Bananas are not a great example of true tropical plants, as they do extend to the subtropics, and are still easy to grow in temperate areas with mildish winters.

 

I spent some time growing bananas in Australia. Here are climate figures for Coffs Harbour, where bananas are grown commercially on the slopes. CH is a lot cooler in summer than your site (but much more summer rain), and similar in winter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffs_Harbour#Climate

Do people grow other tropical fruit like mango, papaya etc there? What palms are grown in the area? Are there many Roystonea?

 

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2017 by Bennz

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

2 hours ago, Anamurlu said:

I know south Turkey pretty well. The region between has spots that offer a microclimate suitable for commercial banana trees farming (and these small bananas are way more delicious than the bigger tropical ones). Although tourism has destroyed many plantations one can find huge stretches of banana plantations in Turkey even today (they also experiment with tropical plants like in mediterranean). These areas are not impossible for any tropical plant.

So if you see that the night temperature in the middle of January for midtown Turkey/Mediterranean is 9 degrees, it's a couple of degrees warmer in those remote plantation hillsides.

'The average winter temperature is 20 degrees'

These areas are close to tropical values. In January terms, much, nearby, five a mile away, the difference is felt. There is not even any need for sera here anyway.

You just see the measurements from "civilized" centers.

That must take a ton of water to keep that banana plantation going in May-September as you're getting basically zero rainfall in that period. 

 

[Anamurlu]

The daytime averages 20°C above winter. In the winter, the nights do not go below 9°C and 10°C. But as you move from the beach to the center a bit, you can witness some nights at 0°C records.

I am not familiar with irrigation and banana species. They provide good products outdoors near the sea.

I saw mango, kiwi, cocoa, coffee trees. And there are different exotic fruits.

There is no Roystonea palm.

Rarely you can see coconut palms. They survive a little in the inner regions, after a while they get sick and die(a little away from the sea). The interior, is influenced by too the north. They are very rare in Turkey. But it is close to the sea and there are a few secluded rocky and secluded bay places, you can see a few of them. They are not under protection. People too insensitive, trees not well-maintained, it has coconut fruits, it is not delicious at all. It's obvious they do not belong here, maybe endemic wild remains. (I guess, Cocos indica Royale)

You can see Phoenix theophrasti, but there are very few. 

I have Ginkgo biloba tree, Macadamia.

Edited December 28, 2017 by Anamurlu

[Anamurlu]

On 28.12.2017 17:52:43, Anamurlu said:

The daytime averages 20°C above winter. In the winter, the nights do not go below 9°C and 10°C. But as you move from the beach to the center a bit, you can witness some nights at 0°C records.

I am not familiar with irrigation and banana species. They provide good products outdoors near the sea.

I saw mango, kiwi, cocoa, coffee trees. And there are different exotic fruits.

There is no Roystonea palm.

Rarely you can see coconut palms. They survive a little in the inner regions, after a while they get sick and die(a little away from the sea). The interior, is influenced by too the north. They are very rare in Turkey. But it is close to the sea and there are a few secluded rocky and secluded bay places, you can see a few of them. They are not under protection. People too insensitive, trees not well-maintained, it has coconut fruits, it is not delicious at all. It's obvious they do not belong here, maybe endemic wild remains. (I guess, coconut linnaeus tree)

You can see Phoenix theophrasti, but there are very few. 

I have Ginkgo biloba tree, Macadamia.

I could not find the change button, sorry, there are spelling and expression errors in the message, I want to be repair again.

Edited January 1, 2018 by Anamurlu