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This sub-tropical fruit tree offers a refreshing burst of grape flavor and I love the way the trees fruit is held on the trunk and branches. It really should be planted more widely here in Northern CA.

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Very nice ! How old are the trees?Where in Cali are you ? Have you ever had them go dormant?

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That's a big plant. Looks happy. This crazy weather we have had here allowed mine to set fruit twice last year and again this spring already.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted (edited)

Nice specimen, also curious which part of Nor. Cal you are in.

Picked up a White fruiting seedling today bringing my Jaboticaba collection to 5 species. After sampling the fruit off a Red variety at the sale, I am counting the days until my own specimen starts fruiting (Another year or so. Red Jabos generally fruit much earlier than Purple-fruited types).

-Nathan

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I'm in the East Bay - I live in the hills of Castro Valley and the trees are probably 14 years old - it's a good crop except for the squirrels who seem to enjoy them most. I'm growing a variegated seedling which was a fluke I found growing under the mother plant - so far it looks promising.

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I forgot to mention - they've never gone dormant but they did lose some of their leaves when the temperature falls much below 32

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I forgot to mention - they've never gone dormant but they did lose some of their leaves when the temperature falls much below 32

Super kool! amazing only 14 yrs old. the reason I asked about dormancy is I currently have one that i transplanted last year, was doing great , but since we had a cold day during the winter months has been dormant??(leaves fell off) Not sure why it hasnt waken up... we have been having beautiful weather here and everthing is growing really good , but this particular Jaboti...

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Lucky you. Mine hasn't fruited yet, only a few years in the ground. Same goes for the blue (myciaria vexator).

I have a yellow jaboticaba (myrciaria glazioviana) that is loaded with fruit for the first time. Anyone tried this one?

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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Lucky you. Mine hasn't fruited yet, only a few years in the ground. Same goes for the blue (myciaria vexator).

I have a yellow jaboticaba (myrciaria glazioviana) that is loaded with fruit for the first time. Anyone tried this one?

Matt

where did ya find the yellow variety ? any fotos>?

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My Yellow probably has another year before it should set fruit. On the other hand, it is big enough that I wouldn't be surprised if I see a flower or two this year.

As far as M. vexator, was told that it usually flowers early, roughly 4-7 years from seed when I purchased mine. Pretty sure it, my Red, White, and Yellow will be producing lots of fruit well before I see my 'Paulista' start. Thinking of getting Grafted plants when I add a 'Sabra' and 'Grimal' to the collection.

Curious if anyone in either So. Cal or up in the Bay Area has tried Miracle Fruit. Thoughts?

QuinnPalms, have you scratched the bark on your tree? Agree that with the weather you guys have been having so far this year, that specimen should already be leafed out.

-Nathan


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My Yellow probably has another year before it should set fruit. On the other hand, it is big enough that I wouldn't be surprised if I see a flower or two this year.

As far as M. vexator, was told that it usually flowers early, roughly 4-7 years from seed when I purchased mine. Pretty sure it, my Red, White, and Yellow will be producing lots of fruit well before I see my 'Paulista' start. Thinking of getting Grafted plants when I add a 'Sabra' and 'Grimal' to the collection.

Curious if anyone in either So. Cal or up in the Bay Area has tried Miracle Fruit. Thoughts?

QuinnPalms, have you scratched the bark on your tree? Agree that with the weather you guys have been having so far this year, that specimen should already be leafed out.

-Nathan

yep , still green and even the branch ends are alive when i break them , but no new growth?? kinda crazy , im hoping one day it just wakes up?

Posted

I have 3 M. Sabaras, not fruiting yet. Probably 4 years old?

Would love to get more varieties. I'm thinking of picking some up when I drive over to Cali in a couple months. Any good nurseries to hit up there that sells Jabos?

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I got the yellow from Montoso Gardens (great service and quality plants by the way). Will try to get some photos later.

I've found the jaboticabas to be finicky in general in my garden. Tried a couple in a couple different spots. One just languished and never grew, the other is taking off. The one doing better is in a crowded area with filtered light and very loamy soil. I've planted two M vexator and neither is doing too great so far but too early to tell.

I tried miracle fruit a couple times. Did OK in my greenhouse and produced fruit, so I did get to experience it once. They didn't do well outside. Not worth growing here in my opinion.

Nathan, where are you getting the named jaboticaba cultivars?

Matt

Note: I just checked Montoso Nursery website...the owner, David Brunner apparently died in July. Really sad. I ordered a couple times and the plants were top quality. His packaging techniques were brilliiant too, plants arrived in absolutely perfect condition. I've incorporated some of his tricks when I ship things. They are no longer shipping plants.

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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Matt, as you know mine was always looking terrible too. I started using camellia and azalea food on it and it changed it up quickly. I think they need an acidic medium.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Mine is 20 years old. I never got fruit until last year... I girdled the trunk and got a couple fruits..... nothing this year though.

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

Posted

Matt, as you know mine was always looking terrible too. I started using camellia and azalea food on it and it changed it up quickly. I think they need an acidic medium.

Yes, this is a key to growing Jaboticabas. They're not too fond of high PH soil and water. Amend the soil you plant them in and use a lot of mulch. Mine gets leaf tip burns because of our high ph soil and water here but they're doing good. They do respond well with foliar feeding too.

If you guy's are interested in more discussion of jaboticabas go read this huge thread here. Lots of tips on growing them and pics :)

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4238.0

Posted

Len hit the mark, Jabos much prefer acidic soil conditions and providing such may help trees fruit faster/sooner. While somewhat of a challenge, limit use of city water. While mine do get some, I try to use collected rain water, or water that has sat out at least 3 days. Mine are all potted so providing better water for them is easier. Definitely planning on using just rain water on the White Jabo. Was told they can be real sensitive to the hard stuff, as i have nicknamed water from the tap.

Nikolas (QuinnPalms), perhaps a dose of an acidic fert, and some incorporated mulch might coax it out?, can't hurt to try ( if you haven't yet ). Maybe threatening to whack it with a Bamboo stick might be considered?

Matt, (in SD), will send you a PM.. would post the nursery but not sure whether or not id get dinged since his nursery isn't affiliated with the IPS. In any event, the plants i got from him were much nicer/bigger than id expected.. Last time id e-mailed, he was also working on getting his permit(s) to be able to sell to everyone back there in CA. Didn't get a chance to ask when i talked to him at the Rare fruit sale i attended this past Sunday.

Raimeiken, Good to hear from someone in AZ. Assuming you are in Phoenix? What sort of light are you providing? Will be headed back that direction in a couple months and have been researching what conditions to provide there.

For anyone interested: Lots if info provided in the link provided and yes, they discuss palms as well.

-Nathan



Posted

Len hit the mark, Jabos much prefer acidic soil conditions and providing such may help trees fruit faster/sooner. While somewhat of a challenge, limit use of city water. While mine do get some, I try to use collected rain water, or water that has sat out at least 3 days. Mine are all potted so providing better water for them is easier. Definitely planning on using just rain water on the White Jabo. Was told they can be real sensitive to the hard stuff, as i have nicknamed water from the tap.

Nikolas (QuinnPalms), perhaps a dose of an acidic fert, and some incorporated mulch might coax it out?, can't hurt to try ( if you haven't yet ). Maybe threatening to whack it with a Bamboo stick might be considered?

Matt, (in SD), will send you a PM.. would post the nursery but not sure whether or not id get dinged since his nursery isn't affiliated with the IPS. In any event, the plants i got from him were much nicer/bigger than id expected.. Last time id e-mailed, he was also working on getting his permit(s) to be able to sell to everyone back there in CA. Didn't get a chance to ask when i talked to him at the Rare fruit sale i attended this past Sunday.

Raimeiken, Good to hear from someone in AZ. Assuming you are in Phoenix? What sort of light are you providing? Will be headed back that direction in a couple months and have been researching what conditions to provide there.

For anyone interested: Lots if info provided in the link provided and yes, they discuss palms as well.

-Nathan

thanks for the info ! Im definitely going to try some acid and mulch !! desperate to get this guy growing again!

Posted

Mine gets a lot of sun but afternoon shade is recommended until they're tall and mature.

Posted

Matt, as you know mine was always looking terrible too. I started using camellia and azalea food on it and it changed it up quickly. I think they need an acidic medium.

Yes, this is a key to growing Jaboticabas. They're not too fond of high PH soil and water. Amend the soil you plant them in and use a lot of mulch. Mine gets leaf tip burns because of our high ph soil and water here but they're doing good. They do respond well with foliar feeding too.

If you guy's are interested in more discussion of jaboticabas go read this huge thread here. Lots of tips on growing them and pics :)

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4238.0

Yeah, even with the acidic changes I made, after a few months the new flush of leaves has brown tipping. Nothing I can do about the TDS here in SoCal unless I hand water mine and I don't love it that much :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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