Need Info On Maples...

[Kris]

Dear Folks  

are there any maple varities that grow in tropical heat conditions,say zone 9 & 10.

And does sugar maple withstand tropical heat ?.since i have

many seeds of different maples.they germinate once a

year in my refrigerator,their leaves are healthy.but once they

are placed outside the fridge in our rooms.in a week they

dry up or damp-off i do not know for shure ! are there

hybrids or GMC type maples avaliable for indian heat..

Iam madly in love with the maples_So kindly guide me on this.

and do magnolias grown in zones 9 to 10 ?

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

[SubTropicRay]

Hello Kris,

My parents have a red Maple (Acer rubrum) in their front yard.  It is the best performing maple in Florida.

Yes, Magnolia grandiflora is a Florida native.  Aside from the Live Oak (Quercus virginiana), it is the most hurricane resistant native tree.

Ray

[Kris]

Dear Ray  

Thanks a lot for responding so quickely to my doubts.

now i wil have to see my seeds stock wheather that

maple variety is in stock to try again.these guys germinate

in the month of december in india.

does maple rubrum does it have the fall colour effect of sugar

maple or canadian maple's.any way i will check this out in my

plants encyclopdeia..which has all the american grown varities

and magnoloia even this sp variety i will refer and see wheather iam talking about the variety you folks have.

We in south india have normal days as you guys have your summers.and our summers are close to gulf countries.but

not dry at all.very humid and sultry.and suddenly it will

rain.increasing body heat and ground heat.

no doubt we are so populous..

Thanks very much & Lots of love to you and your parents..

Kris(India)  

[epicure3]

Hi Kris:

There are some maples that do well in warm areas. Along with the acer that Ray mentioned, you might also think about a Japanese maple. Sugar maples, I'm afraid, will not live very long in your climate, they need dormancy that only comes with the cold weather. I also don't think that you will have the colorfuil display with any of the maples due to your warmth.

[Kris]

Dear Epicure  

Thanks for the info and quick reply.and i think i tried japanese

red maples.but they too conked off in a week or 2 ?

tomarrow i will see my seeds invoice list and give all their

generic names as seen there.

what is very intresting is they gerninate and have lots of seeds to experiment with.

thanks & Love,

Kris  

[BobbyinNY]

Dear Folks  

are there any maple varities that grow in tropical heat conditions,say zone 9 & 10.

And does sugar maple withstand tropical heat ?.since i have

many seeds of different maples.they germinate once a

year in my refrigerator,their leaves are healthy.but once they

are placed outside the fridge in our rooms.in a week they

dry up or damp-off i do not know for shure ! are there

hybrids or GMC type maples avaliable for indian heat..

Iam madly in love with the maples_So kindly guide me on this.

and do magnolias grown in zones 9 to 10 ?

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

Kris,

I can take many pictures of maples if you'd like.... They grow in my area, like palms do in yours - especially the sugar maple.

[Eric in Orlando]

If you want to try a Sugar Maple, then try to get Acer saccharum ssp. floridanum (syn. Acer barbatum), the Southern Sugar Maple or Acer saccharum ssp. leucoderme, Chalkbark Maple. Both of these are southern forms of Sugar Maple native to the SE U.S. The northern Sugar Maple is not heat tolerant here. Acer rubrum var. trilobum is the Southern Red Maple and is native down into southern FL in the Everglades. It is bare for only a short time here, it sheds leaves in late Dec./early Jan. and releafs in late Jan./Feb.

We are trying other Acer species here. There are quite a few native to southern China that are warm temperate/subtropical species, hardy in zones 7-9/10. Here are the Maples we are growing here. So far they are happy here.

buergerianum

capillipes

caudatifolium

coriaceifolium

discolor

elongatum

fabri

oblongatum

oliverianum

rubescens

rubrum var. trilobum

saccharum ssp. floridanum

saccharum ssp. leucoderme

sinensis

sterculiaceum

Acer fabri, coriaceifolium, and oblongatum are interesting as they have an unlobed leaf and are evergreen. They are very un-maple looking and hard to believe that they are an Acer. Here is Acer fabri;

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/leu4510....1

[Kris]

Dear Bobby  

that's really very sweet of you.but iam a bit reality Man_

i want red looking maples in my house garden and not

stills.to be open with you_a kind of show off in my town.

at our winters local people must make a point to visit my road

to just to get a glimpse of this beauty ?

and seeing my love for this tree my dad in his portion of the house has pasted a huge wall paper of trees in fall season

i think the still is from some canadian garden.but the wall

paper was imported & manufactured in Sweden.its about

10 years old.but still looks good.whenever iam in my mom & dad's portion of the house i usually sit in from of it.

And Dear Eric_thanks a lot man on those very useful info

on maples.it appears to be exhaustive with all details.

Thanks for sharing those info's & moments with me !

Love,

Kris(India)

[ron@springhammock]

Hey Eric,

I've been checking on the Acer saccharum floridanum at Leu Gardens for the past few years and for such a large tree, I'm surprised it hasn't started flowering yet.

Kris, maybe if you post a picture of the wall paper, people can offer suggestions of tropical trees that may have a similar look?  Growing up in Michigan, I know what fall color looks like in a forest of old sugar maples, but there should be some tropical trees that may reflect some of that character.

Ron

[Kris]

Thanks Ron  

i will certainly post stills of that wallpaper.and thanks very much..

Love,

Kris(India)

[Kris]

Dear Ron & Friends  

here is the still of that lovely wallpaper that is in the main hall

of my dad's portion of our house !

Love,

Kris  

[Eric in Orlando]

Ron, we have several of the A. saccharum ssp. floridanum that are getting good sized but none have flowered or fruited yet. They were planted in the early 90s, before 1992. Its a great understory or smaller tree for here and has great color when it sheds in December.

[Trópico]

I too had the Maple bug at one time. I am growing one regular red maple and brought from NY (LI) two Japanese maples. The leaves shriveled but once they got acclimatised they looked better but not quite as good as the parent tree. To this day they are still leafless, probably they take more time than our southern maples.

I once ordered seeds from A. rubrum and A. palmatum. None germinated. Got seeds from Eucalyptus gunnii which are so small that looked like dust. Today only one tree survives but does not like the heat it seems, as entire sections of it die but are replaced with new growth.

I also ordered seeds of P. pungens 'glauca' (Colorado blue spruce) as I am in love with those species. Got all to germinate but most died the first summer. Today I have two in the ground (protected from afternoon sun) and three in terracota pots. They have survived two summers and today two of them so far managed to wake up. The others are still dormant.

Fall color will come with cool (low to mid 40s) weather and diminished day duration. You'll probably would get individual leaves turn a color before falling (I saw this in Bogota), but not an overall effect. So I don't know if putting it in a fridge overnight will induce this effect (while tree still fits).

[Trópico]

(Trópico @ Mar. 30 2007,12:09)

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So I don't know if putting it in a fridge overnight will induce this effect (while tree still fits).

I'll give you an idea Kris, why don't you go bonsai on the Japanese maple?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Acer_palmatum-Bonsai.jpg

[Kris]

Dear Frank  

thanks for the info and for that wonderful link on japanese red maples.iam keeping my fingers crossed that some guys from

asia(thailand plant research & modifying unit) will try their

hand in breaking the genetic code and crossing it with

banyan,oak or ficus sp which grown commonly in india...

i hope that day comes soon.and as i said earlier.bonsai will not do for me.since the tree should be seen by my neighbour's and country men who cross that busy road daily.Is there a solution to this problem ?  

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

[Zac in NC]

(Trópico @ Mar. 30 2007,13:09)

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To this day they are still leafless, probably they take more time than our southern maples.

Frank- When did you bring them down? I saw a Japanese maple here in town about 3 days back and it was already leafed out. I think they have a set number of chilling hours required to break dormancy.

Zac

[Trópico]

Zac, it's going to be two years in July. They grew out of dormancy last year so this year I don't see a problem. I still have to check on them.

[BobbyinNY]

here is the still of that lovely wallpaper that is in the main hall

of my dad's portion of our house !

It's so funny how we take what we have for granted...... That picture is the entire North Shore of Long Island in the Fall. If you like that picture, just come to my house around late October/Early November and you will be blown away.

[ruskinPalms]

Hi Kris, I would go with what Eric said: Acer rubrum var. trilobum. If this is found in the everglades in south FL, then this may be your best bet for a maple.  I bet this is the maple I see growing here and there in people's yards. They do put on a nice color show and don't stay bare for more than 3 weeks from what I have observed. Almost worth planting in my yard, but I really don't want to rake the leaves!

[Kris]

Dear Ruskin  

your suggestion will be kept in consideration,while i get

seeds of maples in future.

thanks for that information.

Love,

Kris  

[Zac in NC]

(Trópico @ Apr. 02 2007,09:53)

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Zac, it's going to be two years in July. They grew out of dormancy last year so this year I don't see a problem. I still have to check on them.

Sorry, I just caught your reply Frank. Weird, I don't know what is up then. I know I am just now getting leafing out on my Southern Sugar Maples now, when the Red maples are fully leafed out now.

Zac