Pandanus utilus fruiting.

[Pedro 65]

Our Pandanus utilus which originates from Madagascar is fruiting for the 1st time, its a fast Pandanus and well hung. heres some pics. Pete

[dalmatiansoap]

What a plant! :yay:

[Pedro 65]

Ante, this quick growing Pandanus grows stems , branches and stilt roots in no time, its calling for broms to be anchored in the branches. Pete

[KrisKupsch]

yes, very quick here too, much faster than the local tectorius pedunculatus.

[Eric in Orlando]

Very nice !!!

Our big Pandanus furcatus is currently flowering.

[OB Burt]

Seeds viable, or does it require the opposite sex?

[Pedro 65]

Seeds viable, or does it require the opposite sex?

Burt, the seed wont be viable as you need male and female plants but that is fine as this plant started not that many years ago as an offcut off our other utilus, if I want more to plant , i simply take an offcut off an old side limb down low. Pete

[gilles06]

will be a nice fruit, is it good?

[KrisKupsch]

Have you other Pandanus Pete?

[Pedro 65]

Have you other Pandanus Pete?

Kris, only the Pandanus on the roadsides well Sth of the Airlie Bch turnoff in swampland..It was the Red Fruits ( very appealing in fruit) is what made me stop and get seed. ( a good 10 yrs ago)

From the seed I only kept 3 plants and gave rest to friends. Ours are growing well at the side of the dam . Pete

[KrisKupsch]

That would be Pandanus cookii.

If you want any others and have space to put them away on their own, to be viewed from afar, I have some 'special' species, some from Newcal. Tempted?

[Pedro 65]

That would be Pandanus cookii.

If you want any others and have space to put them away on their own, to be viewed from afar, I have some 'special' species, some from Newcal. Tempted?

Thanks for the name Kris, the bright red fruits are sexy to the eye The ONLY other Pandan I want to grow well here is the "Monster" that Maria bought in from PNG "Years ago". Ive tried a few times but never in the "primo spot' and growth is too slow... Its sold in FNQ as Pandanus NG Giant, but I know it as Pandanus brosimus, its a " True Giant" ( this pic is from Daves garden but ive seen em as big at Marias and other collectors gardens)..Pouring down with "Beautiful rain" right now, no doubt at your too. Pete

[aussiearoids]

Thought P brassilag was name for giant sp. ?

Images I have seen of edible PNG sp show much smaller non stilt root plant .

[Pedro 65]

Thought P brassilag was name for giant sp. ?

Images I have seen of edible PNG sp show much smaller non stilt root plant .

Im going back in time Michael I spose eh yes it is now sold as brassilag, ( from Jan. TNQ Palms and others) but certainly was NG Giant ( Jan still knows it as NG Giant too)....Im wondering if brassilag is a name for Brossimus.. I cant find any info on brassilag ( made up name is it??)..Im getting the name Brossimus from the pics ( looks just like Marias Giants) and blah from the "Old but Brilliant" book by Alfred Graf "TROPICA" 4" Thick and Weighs a TON also forgot to add that the pic on Davesgarden is from Palmtalks Tropicbreeze from NT Oz.

Kris is cookii fruits as red as gemmifer? the fruits on the roadside specimens where a brilliant red

[Pedro 65]

Thought P brassilag was name for giant sp. ?

Images I have seen of edible PNG sp show much smaller non stilt root plant .

Im going back in time Michael I spose eh yes it is now sold as brassilag, ( from Jan. TNQ Palms and others) but certainly was NG Giant ( Jan still knows it as NG Giant too)....Im wondering if brassilag is a name for Brossimus.. I cant find any info on brassilag ( made up name is it??)..Im getting the name Brossimus from the pics ( looks just like Marias Giants) and blah from the "Old but Brilliant" book by Alfred Graf "TROPICA" 4" Thick and Weighs a TON also forgot to add that the pic on Davesgarden is from Palmtalks Tropicbreeze from NT Oz.

Kris is cookii fruits as red as gemmifer? the fruits on the roadside specimens where a brilliant red

Heres a little more info Michael about Brosimus which is the "Largest" Pandan in PNG, wish I could make this attatch larger,( no worries the attatchment is perfect size) . Zig ( tropicbreeze) chime in pls about seeing this monster in habitat in PNG, plus more pics if you can thanks. Pete

[aussiearoids]

Pedro , stilts on ones I have seen are way bigger than that ... names and real info hard to find .

Fruit seen of edible one dropped off at Whyanbeel was much longer from memory .

[Pedro 65]

Pedro , stilts on ones I have seen are way bigger than that ... names and real info hard to find .

Fruit seen of edible one dropped off at Whyanbeel was much longer from memory .

Bigger than Zigs pic post 12?

Michael I added this because you said you couldnt find info on Brosimus and you said it was small and lacked stilts? Brosimus,"Im certain"" is the PNG Giant, the fruit etching is at its 1st stage too dont you think, plus the rave about the stilts isnt right, but real pics tell a different story. Marias where Big 20 yrs ago Id love to see a recent pic, do you have pics of Whyanbeel ? would dig to see them too..Hope good rain come your way Michael, glad weve had good falls here. Pete

[aussiearoids]

http://foodplantsinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Pandanus%20as%20food.pdf

[Pedro 65]

I cant open that , maybe coz 1 son is playing Black Ops 2 on his PS and online and my other son is you tubing dam slow speed here 2day Post some pics Michael and chime in Zig when you read this

[aussiearoids]

It took ages to download for me also .. Seems one name for a very large one is P. antarensensis .

doc you posted for edible sp. does not look at all like giant one Pedro ..l my desk top has crashed ,

and portable hard drive with all pics does not like connecting to lap top ..

posted pics of giant on previous old thread , very old small pics ..

sadly big one down at Mission Beach was recently destroyed .. it had survived a few cyclones and still had a head and awesome stilt roots .

[Pedro 65]

It took ages to download for me also .. Seems one name for a very large one is P. antarensensis .

doc you posted for edible sp. does not look at all like giant one Pedro ..l my desk top has crashed ,

and portable hard drive with all pics does not like connecting to lap top ..

posted pics of giant on previous old thread , very old small pics ..

sadly big one down at Mission Beach was recently destroyed .. it had survived a few cyclones and still had a head and awesome stilt roots .

heres 2 pics off old posts. 1 from you from Jill and Horst Goetz ( I used to buy off Jill before she passed)

and 1 from Zig in PNG, this is the monster ( a person at the bottom) Brosimus OR is this actually Brassilag ?? Your thoughts Nth Queenslander both pics look like the same Pandan, both Giants thats for sure.

[tropicbreeze]

P. brosimos is the current accepted name of the tall species in the photo. The name P. brassilag doesn't exist (unless it's mispelled). After I came back with the photos from PNG I researched texts and the internet, was in contact with Alistair Hay who had spent a number of years in PNG as a botanist/taxonomist. He thought it was either P. brosimos or P. julianettii. See below what my further research brought up about julianettii, although it is also a currently accepted name.

"Wild karuka (Pandanus brosimos) This species is similar to the cultivated karuka nut (Pandanus julianettii) and the expert on the botany of the genus, Ben Stone (1982:412), believes that the cultivated form is a cultivar of P. brosimos. As with cultivated karuka, P. brosimos is an important food for those living at high altitudes in New Guinea, although it is not quite as important as P. julianettii. Wild karuka is endemic to New Guinea and is not found elsewhere (Stone 1982). Within PNG, it is widespread in a high altitudinal band (2400–3100 m) in the central and fringe highlands and on the Huon Peninsula. It occasionally grows as low as 1800 m and as high as 3300 m (Table 5). Thus it is found at the top of the range of food gardening in PNG (up to 2850 m) and some hundred of metres higher."

"Production is discontinuous and non-seasonal. Nuts are most likely to mature in January–February, but may mature in any month. The producing period may coincide with that of P. julianettii at lower altitudes in the same region, but this does not always occur (Bourke et al. 2004:41). The MASP database indicates that 1.322 million people live in locations where the crop is commonly eaten (32% of the rural population) (Table 3). It can be found in all mainland provinces, except East Sepik. Most (91%) of the people who grow wild karuka live in the five provinces of the Highlands Region and in Morobe Province. Nuts have not been noted in highland markets, but it is possible that they are sold in high-altitude locations. P. julianettii is likely to have greater potential for commercialisation than P. brosimos because the shell of the cultivated karuka is usually easier to break. Nevertheless, the wild species may be an important source of breeding material if improved types are to be bred in the future."

If you look closely at the last photo on the left (Pedro's post), there is a person (Charlie) standing at the base of the plant.

[Pedro 65]

P. brosimos is the current accepted name of the tall species in the photo. The name P. brassilag doesn't exist (unless it's mispelled). After I came back with the photos from PNG I researched texts and the internet, was in contact with Alistair Hay who had spent a number of years in PNG as a botanist/taxonomist. He thought it was either P. brosimos or P. julianettii. See below what my further research brought up about julianettii, although it is also a currently accepted name.

"Wild karuka (Pandanus brosimos) This species is similar to the cultivated karuka nut (Pandanus julianettii) and the expert on the botany of the genus, Ben Stone (1982:412), believes that the cultivated form is a cultivar of P. brosimos. As with cultivated karuka, P. brosimos is an important food for those living at high altitudes in New Guinea, although it is not quite as important as P. julianettii. Wild karuka is endemic to New Guinea and is not found elsewhere (Stone 1982). Within PNG, it is widespread in a high altitudinal band (2400–3100 m) in the central and fringe highlands and on the Huon Peninsula. It occasionally grows as low as 1800 m and as high as 3300 m (Table 5). Thus it is found at the top of the range of food gardening in PNG (up to 2850 m) and some hundred of metres higher."

"Production is discontinuous and non-seasonal. Nuts are most likely to mature in January–February, but may mature in any month. The producing period may coincide with that of P. julianettii at lower altitudes in the same region, but this does not always occur (Bourke et al. 2004:41). The MASP database indicates that 1.322 million people live in locations where the crop is commonly eaten (32% of the rural population) (Table 3). It can be found in all mainland provinces, except East Sepik. Most (91%) of the people who grow wild karuka live in the five provinces of the Highlands Region and in Morobe Province. Nuts have not been noted in highland markets, but it is possible that they are sold in high-altitude locations. P. julianettii is likely to have greater potential for commercialisation than P. brosimos because the shell of the cultivated karuka is usually easier to break. Nevertheless, the wild species may be an important source of breeding material if improved types are to be bred in the future."

If you look closely at the last photo on the left (Pedro's post), there is a person (Charlie) standing at the base of the plant.

Thank You Zig for all this very inforative info...I hope ALL Nth Queenslandars "read it' Ive called the NG Giant Brosimus all along especially after seeing and reading about Pandanus in the Alfred Graf TROPICA book, and you Zig have seen these Pandans 1st hand in the wild of PNG..."What a sight" that must have been. Pete