GIANT Seagrape Tree, Coccoloba uvifera

[Eric in Orlando]

This is just about the largest Seagrape Tree, Coccoloba uvifera, I have ever seen. It is growing by the boat ramp at Silver Palm Park in Boca Raton, FL

[fastfeat]

I remember inventorying this tree for City of Boca Raton some years back. Good to see it's still alive and well.

[Jerry@TreeZoo]

That is a nice tree at Palmetto Park Road and the Intracoastal. Nice that it is so accessible to the public also. The State Champion used to be at Hugh Taylor Birch State Park, about 20 miles south in Ft Lauderdale. I have not seen it in years but memory tells me this one in Boca is better looking.

[Laisla87]

They are very cold tolerant. Mine is growing well and I have the climate equivalent of L.A

[fastfeat]

BTW, I'm hoping that that royal to the right is a volunteer. If not, someone needs to be reassigned...

Either way, it should be removed.

Edited August 11, 2012 by fastfeat

[Dave-Vero]

Laisla87, I've gotten nowhere with trying to figure out the NSW coastal climate. My part of Florida at 27º N is far enough north to have occasional devastating freezes. In December 2010, the airport near my place hit -3 C, enough to damage some of the Archontophoenix palms, but not A. cunninghamiana. Of course those freezes are a trademark of eastern North America, thanks to open terrain all the way to Yukon and Siberia. That kind of cold will cause damage to sea grapes, and north of us, they freeze to the ground reasonably often. In south Florida, they're more permanent, but the trees are not very well built, so they fall victim to hurricanes.

Anyway, it surprises me that Sydney can be so far south and still be OK for sea grapes!

[Laisla87]

Laisla87, I've gotten nowhere with trying to figure out the NSW coastal climate. My part of Florida at 27º N is far enough north to have occasional devastating freezes. In December 2010, the airport near my place hit -3 C, enough to damage some of the Archontophoenix palms, but not A. cunninghamiana. Of course those freezes are a trademark of eastern North America, thanks to open terrain all the way to Yukon and Siberia. That kind of cold will cause damage to sea grapes, and north of us, they freeze to the ground reasonably often. In south Florida, they're more permanent, but the trees are not very well built, so they fall victim to hurricanes.

Anyway, it surprises me that Sydney can be so far south and still be OK for sea grapes!

Hi Dave

There are no freezes here; it is just cool and moist for 2.5 - 3 months. Temps range from 8C in the morning to about 16-17C in the afternoon. Some tropicals deal with that OK, such as crotons, some heliconias, poinciana, and seagrape. Others (such as coconuts and many tropical palms) - can survive occasional freezes provided it warms up again quickly but won't tolerant the prolonged cool I we have here.

I too find the Australian climate a bit odd, especially how the tropics can be surprising cold for many days here. Or the subtropics - colder than Sydney in the morning (i.e 6C and warmer in the day (22C).

Edited August 12, 2012 by Laisla87

[Dave-Vero]

Laisla87, sounds like you really do have a climate similar to parts of Los Angeles (things vary wildly according to distance from the ocean, elevation, whatever) or maybe San Diego. We not only have winter freezes, but winter's the dry season (it's a monsoon climate), although the dry seasons of coastal Queensland seem longer and drier than ours.

Looking out the window, a 2 meter Central American cycad, Zamia variegata, is putting up a new leaf, there's a big, tender bromeliad from low-elevation Nicaragua partly hiding behind a low stone wall, and the overstory is temperate native oaks. I spotted a baby sea grape in the yard last week and need to put it in a pot.

[JasonD]

Does anyone in California grow Coccoloba uvifera? How does it perform? It's such a beautiful beach tree.

[fastfeat]

Does anyone in California grow Coccoloba uvifera? How does it perform? It's such a beautiful beach tree.

Can grow in SoCal, but stays relatively small. Takes light frost, but really needs heat to develop size.

[DoomsDave]

Sea grapes are pretty. They might be worth the trouble to nudge along here, if only for bragging rights, maybe in Northern San Diego or South OC . . .

[Dave-Vero]

In our part of Florida, sea grapes will get fairly large at the beach (and I'm familiar with a fairly large multi-trunked one in Ft. Pierce), but under natural conditions they were fairly likely to be burned to the ground at intervals and if not that, then smashed up by hurricanes. They have rather soft wood and aren't terribly sturdy. In landscapes, they tend to be cut into hedges.

[virtualpalm]

Here's a fairly good sized one in Homestead:

Admittedly it is not a great photo, but you do get the idea of its size.

Jody

[Eric in Orlando]

That is a huge one, and very full !!!

[virtualpalm]

Yes, it is... and it's for sale!

Jody

[Eric in Orlando]

Wish I could buy it !!!

[John Max]

28.08.2012 02:18'de JasonD şunları söyledi:

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Edited June 19, 2021 by John Max
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[John Max]

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